Thread for Craziest Series of the YEAR (AUS VS SA)

[Deep Dey]

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THE CRAZIEST SERIES OF THE YEAR
VS

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FIXTURES

DATE	TIME	FORMAT	MATCH	VENUE
Friday 02-Nov-12 to Sunday 04-Nov-12	10:30 local 23:30 GMT (Prev. Day) 05:00 IST	3- Day Warm-Up Match	Australia A vs South Aficans	Sydney Cricket Ground, Sydney
Match Result	Australia A Won The Toss & Chose To Bat Australia A 480/7d and 13/1d; South Africans 277/6d Match drawn
DATE	TIME	FORMAT	MATCH	VENUE
Friday 09-Nov-12 to Tuesday 13-Nov-12	10:00 local 00:00 GMT 05:30 IST	1st Test	Australia vs South Africa	Brisbane Cricket Ground, Woolloongabba, Brisbane
Match Result	South Africa Won The Toss & Chose To Bat South Africa 450 and 166/5; Australia 565/5d Match drawn
DATE	TIME	FORMAT	MATCH	VENUE
Thursday 22-Nov-12 to Monday 26-Nov-12	10:30 local 00:00 GMT 05:30 IST	2nd Test	Australia vs South Africa	Adelaide Oval, Adelaide
Match Result	Australia Won The Toss & Chose To Bat Australia 550 and 267/8d; South Africa 388 and 248/8 Match drawn
DATE	TIME	FORMAT	MATCH	VENUE
Friday 30-Nov-12 to Monday 03-Dec-12	10:30 local 02:30 GMT 08:00 IST	3rd Test	Australia vs South Africa	Western Australia Cricket Association Ground, Perth
Match Result	South Africa Won The Toss & Chose To Bat South Africa 225 and 569; Australia 163 and 322 South Africa won by 309 runs

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SQUADS
AUSTRALIA SQUAD

Australia A Squad	Australia Test Squad (1st Test)	Australia Test Squad (2nd Test)	Australia Test Squad (3rd Test)
Phillip Hughes Rob Quiney Liam Davis Alex Doolan Andrew McDonald (Capt) Tim Paine (WK) Steven Smith Moises Henriques Glenn Maxwell John Hastings Nathan Coulter-Nile	David Warner Ed Cowan Shane Watson Ricky Ponting Michael Clarke (Capt) Michael Hussey Matthew Wade (WK) Peter Siddle James Pattinson Ben Hilfenhaus Mitchell Starc Nathan Lyon Rob Quiney	David Warner Ed Cowan Shane Watson Ricky Ponting Michael Clarke (Capt) Michael Hussey Matthew Wade (WK) Peter Siddle James Pattinson Ben Hilfenhaus Mitchell Starc Nathan Lyon Rob Quiney	David Warner Ed Cowan Shane Watson Ricky Ponting Michael Clarke (Capt) Michael Hussey Matthew Wade (WK) Peter Siddle Mitchell Johnson Ben Hilfenhaus Mitchell Starc Nathan Lyon Josh Hazelwood John Hastings

SOUTH AFRICA SQUAD

South Africa Test Squad

Graeme Smith (Capt) Hashim Amla AB de Villiers (WK) Dean Elgar Faf du Plessis Imran Tahir Jacques Kallis Rory Kleinveldt Morne Morkel Alviro Petersen Robbie Peterson Vernon Philander Jacques Rudolph Dale Steyn Thami Tsolekile (WK) Ryan Mclaren

Withdrawn Players

1.JP Duminy (due to Heel Injury)

STATS OF ALL AUSTRALIA VS SOUTH AFRICA SERIES
CLICK HERE

[Mad max]

So Harris too won't be there ?

Its very hard to fit The leader in the attack then where will you get Servant in the attack

No chance for him

[Deep Dey]

Strac,Cummins,??

WATSON IS INJURY PRONE SO HE IS CALLED BACK TO GIVE HIM SOME REST

CUMMINS WON'T PLAY TEST SERIES, CONFIRMED

utter rubbish if this is true

The future of Aussie bowling not playing LOL LOL LOL that too in AUstralia

if he plays , he will be out for next test

his body is not yet fot for test matches

So then why to play Cricket if u cant play real Cricket ?
Just sit in home and watch it with a cup of tea

He is just 19 years old and not 90
How can he loose fitness for just 1 test ?

Utter rubbish i would say...
and hes been brought in Australia ..Usually Aussies have best FItness in the world ..

arre baba he hasn't played any 4-day games since that johanesberg test vs sa

if you have siddle,hilfenhaus,starc,pattinson in the line up, cummins have no business in the team

So what ? Why you need Siddle in the line up rather than Cummins who is Young and Pacy and future of Aussies..while SIddle hardly plays 10 intl matches in a year...

if i were the selector of CA i would definitely kick out Siddle and get in Cummins

ahem ahem

i guess you remember the india vs australia series 2011/12 and siddle's performance

I do remember him getting Tendulkar bowled on 93 in the last over of the day and missing tendulkar's 100th 100 ...

but you cant say this time too he will perform in same way and who will need to leave out Pat CUmmins who picked up 7 against Proteas in their home turf and also stealed victory from them by scoring 15 crucial runs ?

You cant leave out Cummins as far as i concern

siddle and hilfenhaus played that series vs india only because cummins was injured

so there has to be strong reason to drop siddle or hilfy, they both performed well vs india and then vs windies, there has to be strong reason to drop them .

you cannot drop them because cummins is 19 yr old and probable future star

+ Ryan harris will also be back, where to fit cummins


going by your logic, why not drop gambhir and sehwag and bring unmukt chand then, chand is also 19 and much better batsman than sehwag and gambhir currently on form, purely on form

Lol you are comparing with an undebuted one

Even Cummins has performed well in his last test at Durban isnt it ?

now he is fit as well why not bring him back ?? WHy only Siddle ?

You cannot drop Hifly in these conditions because he is the key weapon for aussies....and Strike bowler..Even Starc...
and Pattinson no way to drop him after getting 6 wickets in recent matches..

But whats use of Siddle...he is just being used as Extra Seamer but nothing else..

I am sure he wont be given chance in XI ahead of pattinson,Starc,Hily,Ryan

Siddle is not much of swing bowler..he is an old ball specialist isnt ? if he has to be taken into XI then aussies should go with 4 fast bowlers ,.,

Will they ?

mistake mistake mistake

Peter Siddle is the leader of australian bowling attack after johnson went

Siddle will play the series, confirmed
before that he is going to play 4 shield matches

then you will drop Pattinson/Starc ?
then that would be more controversial ...

Pattinson in form of his life and Starc- no need to say about him at present i guess..

I agree siddle was the leader of Aussies attack but remember when HIfly came back what happened ?>
Hilfy,Pattinson shared new ball or else RYan and HIlfy shared new ball ...but not the Siddle..He was used as Old ball Specialist..
but now Pattinson and Starc are there...So Starc and Hilfy go ahed in first overs ..Pattinson to follow..

where will u fit siddle in this line up unless it is Perth they cant take 4 seamers and get in siddle ..

Just because he is Leader of Aussie attack when MItchy left and performed well in 2 series and Named as "TEST" specialist you cant leave out Starc/Pattinson

purely on form and the lessons he learned from mcdermott after lankan tour last year, siddle will be in my team anytime ,anyday currently

Siddle
Hilfenhaus/lyon
Pattionson
Harris

4 bowlers

[Mad max]

Strac,Cummins,??

WATSON IS INJURY PRONE SO HE IS CALLED BACK TO GIVE HIM SOME REST

CUMMINS WON'T PLAY TEST SERIES, CONFIRMED

utter rubbish if this is true

The future of Aussie bowling not playing LOL LOL LOL that too in AUstralia

if he plays , he will be out for next test

his body is not yet fot for test matches

So then why to play Cricket if u cant play real Cricket ?
Just sit in home and watch it with a cup of tea

He is just 19 years old and not 90
How can he loose fitness for just 1 test ?

Utter rubbish i would say...
and hes been brought in Australia ..Usually Aussies have best FItness in the world ..

arre baba he hasn't played any 4-day games since that johanesberg test vs sa

if you have siddle,hilfenhaus,starc,pattinson in the line up, cummins have no business in the team

So what ? Why you need Siddle in the line up rather than Cummins who is Young and Pacy and future of Aussies..while SIddle hardly plays 10 intl matches in a year...

if i were the selector of CA i would definitely kick out Siddle and get in Cummins

ahem ahem

i guess you remember the india vs australia series 2011/12 and siddle's performance

I do remember him getting Tendulkar bowled on 93 in the last over of the day and missing tendulkar's 100th 100 ...

but you cant say this time too he will perform in same way and who will need to leave out Pat CUmmins who picked up 7 against Proteas in their home turf and also stealed victory from them by scoring 15 crucial runs ?

You cant leave out Cummins as far as i concern

siddle and hilfenhaus played that series vs india only because cummins was injured

so there has to be strong reason to drop siddle or hilfy, they both performed well vs india and then vs windies, there has to be strong reason to drop them .

you cannot drop them because cummins is 19 yr old and probable future star

+ Ryan harris will also be back, where to fit cummins


going by your logic, why not drop gambhir and sehwag and bring unmukt chand then, chand is also 19 and much better batsman than sehwag and gambhir currently on form, purely on form

Lol you are comparing with an undebuted one

Even Cummins has performed well in his last test at Durban isnt it ?

now he is fit as well why not bring him back ?? WHy only Siddle ?

You cannot drop Hifly in these conditions because he is the key weapon for aussies....and Strike bowler..Even Starc...
and Pattinson no way to drop him after getting 6 wickets in recent matches..

But whats use of Siddle...he is just being used as Extra Seamer but nothing else..

I am sure he wont be given chance in XI ahead of pattinson,Starc,Hily,Ryan

Siddle is not much of swing bowler..he is an old ball specialist isnt ? if he has to be taken into XI then aussies should go with 4 fast bowlers ,.,

Will they ?

mistake mistake mistake

Peter Siddle is the leader of australian bowling attack after johnson went

Siddle will play the series, confirmed
before that he is going to play 4 shield matches

then you will drop Pattinson/Starc ?
then that would be more controversial ...

Pattinson in form of his life and Starc- no need to say about him at present i guess..

I agree siddle was the leader of Aussies attack but remember when HIfly came back what happened ?>
Hilfy,Pattinson shared new ball or else RYan and HIlfy shared new ball ...but not the Siddle..He was used as Old ball Specialist..
but now Pattinson and Starc are there...So Starc and Hilfy go ahed in first overs ..Pattinson to follow..

where will u fit siddle in this line up unless it is Perth they cant take 4 seamers and get in siddle ..

Just because he is Leader of Aussie attack when MItchy left and performed well in 2 series and Named as "TEST" specialist you cant leave out Starc/Pattinson

purely on form and the lessons he learned from mcdermott after lankan tour last year, siddle will be in my team anytime ,anyday currently

Siddle
Hilfenhaus/lyon
Pattionson
Harris

4 bowlers

Dropping HIlfy and Starc :O :O

Anyday my team would be Hilfy,Starc,Pattinson,Lyon/Cummins..

never Siddle ..
i would like to have more of Josh Hazlewood ahead of Siddle..

[Deep Dey]

Strac,Cummins,??

WATSON IS INJURY PRONE SO HE IS CALLED BACK TO GIVE HIM SOME REST

CUMMINS WON'T PLAY TEST SERIES, CONFIRMED

utter rubbish if this is true

The future of Aussie bowling not playing LOL LOL LOL that too in AUstralia

if he plays , he will be out for next test

his body is not yet fot for test matches

So then why to play Cricket if u cant play real Cricket ?
Just sit in home and watch it with a cup of tea

He is just 19 years old and not 90
How can he loose fitness for just 1 test ?

Utter rubbish i would say...
and hes been brought in Australia ..Usually Aussies have best FItness in the world ..

arre baba he hasn't played any 4-day games since that johanesberg test vs sa

if you have siddle,hilfenhaus,starc,pattinson in the line up, cummins have no business in the team

So what ? Why you need Siddle in the line up rather than Cummins who is Young and Pacy and future of Aussies..while SIddle hardly plays 10 intl matches in a year...

if i were the selector of CA i would definitely kick out Siddle and get in Cummins

ahem ahem

i guess you remember the india vs australia series 2011/12 and siddle's performance

I do remember him getting Tendulkar bowled on 93 in the last over of the day and missing tendulkar's 100th 100 ...

but you cant say this time too he will perform in same way and who will need to leave out Pat CUmmins who picked up 7 against Proteas in their home turf and also stealed victory from them by scoring 15 crucial runs ?

You cant leave out Cummins as far as i concern

siddle and hilfenhaus played that series vs india only because cummins was injured

so there has to be strong reason to drop siddle or hilfy, they both performed well vs india and then vs windies, there has to be strong reason to drop them .

you cannot drop them because cummins is 19 yr old and probable future star

+ Ryan harris will also be back, where to fit cummins


going by your logic, why not drop gambhir and sehwag and bring unmukt chand then, chand is also 19 and much better batsman than sehwag and gambhir currently on form, purely on form

Lol you are comparing with an undebuted one

Even Cummins has performed well in his last test at Durban isnt it ?

now he is fit as well why not bring him back ?? WHy only Siddle ?

You cannot drop Hifly in these conditions because he is the key weapon for aussies....and Strike bowler..Even Starc...
and Pattinson no way to drop him after getting 6 wickets in recent matches..

But whats use of Siddle...he is just being used as Extra Seamer but nothing else..

I am sure he wont be given chance in XI ahead of pattinson,Starc,Hily,Ryan

Siddle is not much of swing bowler..he is an old ball specialist isnt ? if he has to be taken into XI then aussies should go with 4 fast bowlers ,.,

Will they ?

mistake mistake mistake

Peter Siddle is the leader of australian bowling attack after johnson went

Siddle will play the series, confirmed
before that he is going to play 4 shield matches

then you will drop Pattinson/Starc ?
then that would be more controversial ...

Pattinson in form of his life and Starc- no need to say about him at present i guess..

I agree siddle was the leader of Aussies attack but remember when HIfly came back what happened ?>
Hilfy,Pattinson shared new ball or else RYan and HIlfy shared new ball ...but not the Siddle..He was used as Old ball Specialist..
but now Pattinson and Starc are there...So Starc and Hilfy go ahed in first overs ..Pattinson to follow..

where will u fit siddle in this line up unless it is Perth they cant take 4 seamers and get in siddle ..

Just because he is Leader of Aussie attack when MItchy left and performed well in 2 series and Named as "TEST" specialist you cant leave out Starc/Pattinson

purely on form and the lessons he learned from mcdermott after lankan tour last year, siddle will be in my team anytime ,anyday currently

Siddle
Hilfenhaus/lyon
Pattionson
Harris

4 bowlers

Dropping HIlfy and Starc :O :O

Anyday my team would be Hilfy,Starc,Pattinson,Lyon/Cummins..

never Siddle ..
i would like to have more of Josh Hazlewood ahead of Siddle..

you want to play all debutants against africa

they will turn australian bowlers into pieces and powder

[Deep Dey]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/586627.html

when you have time, read this patiently

[Mad max]

Strac,Cummins,??

WATSON IS INJURY PRONE SO HE IS CALLED BACK TO GIVE HIM SOME REST

CUMMINS WON'T PLAY TEST SERIES, CONFIRMED

utter rubbish if this is true

The future of Aussie bowling not playing LOL LOL LOL that too in AUstralia

if he plays , he will be out for next test

his body is not yet fot for test matches

So then why to play Cricket if u cant play real Cricket ?
Just sit in home and watch it with a cup of tea

He is just 19 years old and not 90
How can he loose fitness for just 1 test ?

Utter rubbish i would say...
and hes been brought in Australia ..Usually Aussies have best FItness in the world ..

arre baba he hasn't played any 4-day games since that johanesberg test vs sa

if you have siddle,hilfenhaus,starc,pattinson in the line up, cummins have no business in the team

So what ? Why you need Siddle in the line up rather than Cummins who is Young and Pacy and future of Aussies..while SIddle hardly plays 10 intl matches in a year...

if i were the selector of CA i would definitely kick out Siddle and get in Cummins

ahem ahem

i guess you remember the india vs australia series 2011/12 and siddle's performance

I do remember him getting Tendulkar bowled on 93 in the last over of the day and missing tendulkar's 100th 100 ...

but you cant say this time too he will perform in same way and who will need to leave out Pat CUmmins who picked up 7 against Proteas in their home turf and also stealed victory from them by scoring 15 crucial runs ?

You cant leave out Cummins as far as i concern

siddle and hilfenhaus played that series vs india only because cummins was injured

so there has to be strong reason to drop siddle or hilfy, they both performed well vs india and then vs windies, there has to be strong reason to drop them .

you cannot drop them because cummins is 19 yr old and probable future star

+ Ryan harris will also be back, where to fit cummins


going by your logic, why not drop gambhir and sehwag and bring unmukt chand then, chand is also 19 and much better batsman than sehwag and gambhir currently on form, purely on form

Lol you are comparing with an undebuted one

Even Cummins has performed well in his last test at Durban isnt it ?

now he is fit as well why not bring him back ?? WHy only Siddle ?

You cannot drop Hifly in these conditions because he is the key weapon for aussies....and Strike bowler..Even Starc...
and Pattinson no way to drop him after getting 6 wickets in recent matches..

But whats use of Siddle...he is just being used as Extra Seamer but nothing else..

I am sure he wont be given chance in XI ahead of pattinson,Starc,Hily,Ryan

Siddle is not much of swing bowler..he is an old ball specialist isnt ? if he has to be taken into XI then aussies should go with 4 fast bowlers ,.,

Will they ?

mistake mistake mistake

Peter Siddle is the leader of australian bowling attack after johnson went

Siddle will play the series, confirmed
before that he is going to play 4 shield matches

then you will drop Pattinson/Starc ?
then that would be more controversial ...

Pattinson in form of his life and Starc- no need to say about him at present i guess..

I agree siddle was the leader of Aussies attack but remember when HIfly came back what happened ?>
Hilfy,Pattinson shared new ball or else RYan and HIlfy shared new ball ...but not the Siddle..He was used as Old ball Specialist..
but now Pattinson and Starc are there...So Starc and Hilfy go ahed in first overs ..Pattinson to follow..

where will u fit siddle in this line up unless it is Perth they cant take 4 seamers and get in siddle ..

Just because he is Leader of Aussie attack when MItchy left and performed well in 2 series and Named as "TEST" specialist you cant leave out Starc/Pattinson

purely on form and the lessons he learned from mcdermott after lankan tour last year, siddle will be in my team anytime ,anyday currently

Siddle
Hilfenhaus/lyon
Pattionson
Harris

4 bowlers

Dropping HIlfy and Starc :O :O

Anyday my team would be Hilfy,Starc,Pattinson,Lyon/Cummins..

never Siddle ..
i would like to have more of Josh Hazlewood ahead of Siddle..

you want to play all debutants against africa

they will turn australian bowlers into pieces and powder

NOt all debutants ..

Hilfy,Pattinson isnt debutants ..
and Starc a new learner..
so what ?

Remember this is the turf the boys have been brought up ..

[Mad max]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/586627.html

when you have time, read this patiently

lemme read it

[Mad max]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

[Deep Dey]

Strac,Cummins,??

WATSON IS INJURY PRONE SO HE IS CALLED BACK TO GIVE HIM SOME REST

CUMMINS WON'T PLAY TEST SERIES, CONFIRMED

utter rubbish if this is true

The future of Aussie bowling not playing LOL LOL LOL that too in AUstralia

if he plays , he will be out for next test

his body is not yet fot for test matches

So then why to play Cricket if u cant play real Cricket ?
Just sit in home and watch it with a cup of tea

He is just 19 years old and not 90
How can he loose fitness for just 1 test ?

Utter rubbish i would say...
and hes been brought in Australia ..Usually Aussies have best FItness in the world ..

arre baba he hasn't played any 4-day games since that johanesberg test vs sa

if you have siddle,hilfenhaus,starc,pattinson in the line up, cummins have no business in the team

So what ? Why you need Siddle in the line up rather than Cummins who is Young and Pacy and future of Aussies..while SIddle hardly plays 10 intl matches in a year...

if i were the selector of CA i would definitely kick out Siddle and get in Cummins

ahem ahem

i guess you remember the india vs australia series 2011/12 and siddle's performance

I do remember him getting Tendulkar bowled on 93 in the last over of the day and missing tendulkar's 100th 100 ...

but you cant say this time too he will perform in same way and who will need to leave out Pat CUmmins who picked up 7 against Proteas in their home turf and also stealed victory from them by scoring 15 crucial runs ?

You cant leave out Cummins as far as i concern

siddle and hilfenhaus played that series vs india only because cummins was injured

so there has to be strong reason to drop siddle or hilfy, they both performed well vs india and then vs windies, there has to be strong reason to drop them .

you cannot drop them because cummins is 19 yr old and probable future star

+ Ryan harris will also be back, where to fit cummins


going by your logic, why not drop gambhir and sehwag and bring unmukt chand then, chand is also 19 and much better batsman than sehwag and gambhir currently on form, purely on form

Lol you are comparing with an undebuted one

Even Cummins has performed well in his last test at Durban isnt it ?

now he is fit as well why not bring him back ?? WHy only Siddle ?

You cannot drop Hifly in these conditions because he is the key weapon for aussies....and Strike bowler..Even Starc...
and Pattinson no way to drop him after getting 6 wickets in recent matches..

But whats use of Siddle...he is just being used as Extra Seamer but nothing else..

I am sure he wont be given chance in XI ahead of pattinson,Starc,Hily,Ryan

Siddle is not much of swing bowler..he is an old ball specialist isnt ? if he has to be taken into XI then aussies should go with 4 fast bowlers ,.,

Will they ?

mistake mistake mistake

Peter Siddle is the leader of australian bowling attack after johnson went

Siddle will play the series, confirmed
before that he is going to play 4 shield matches

then you will drop Pattinson/Starc ?
then that would be more controversial ...

Pattinson in form of his life and Starc- no need to say about him at present i guess..

I agree siddle was the leader of Aussies attack but remember when HIfly came back what happened ?>
Hilfy,Pattinson shared new ball or else RYan and HIlfy shared new ball ...but not the Siddle..He was used as Old ball Specialist..
but now Pattinson and Starc are there...So Starc and Hilfy go ahed in first overs ..Pattinson to follow..

where will u fit siddle in this line up unless it is Perth they cant take 4 seamers and get in siddle ..

Just because he is Leader of Aussie attack when MItchy left and performed well in 2 series and Named as "TEST" specialist you cant leave out Starc/Pattinson

purely on form and the lessons he learned from mcdermott after lankan tour last year, siddle will be in my team anytime ,anyday currently

Siddle
Hilfenhaus/lyon
Pattionson
Harris

4 bowlers

Dropping HIlfy and Starc :O :O

Anyday my team would be Hilfy,Starc,Pattinson,Lyon/Cummins..

never Siddle ..
i would like to have more of Josh Hazlewood ahead of Siddle..

you want to play all debutants against africa

they will turn australian bowlers into pieces and powder

NOt all debutants ..

Hilfy,Pattinson isnt debutants ..
and Starc a new learner..
so what ?

Remember this is the turf the boys have been brought up ..

pattinson just played 4-5 matches, that doesn't make him experienced bowlers

[Deep Dey]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

[Mad max]

Strac,Cummins,??

WATSON IS INJURY PRONE SO HE IS CALLED BACK TO GIVE HIM SOME REST

CUMMINS WON'T PLAY TEST SERIES, CONFIRMED

utter rubbish if this is true

The future of Aussie bowling not playing LOL LOL LOL that too in AUstralia

if he plays , he will be out for next test

his body is not yet fot for test matches

So then why to play Cricket if u cant play real Cricket ?
Just sit in home and watch it with a cup of tea

He is just 19 years old and not 90
How can he loose fitness for just 1 test ?

Utter rubbish i would say...
and hes been brought in Australia ..Usually Aussies have best FItness in the world ..

arre baba he hasn't played any 4-day games since that johanesberg test vs sa

if you have siddle,hilfenhaus,starc,pattinson in the line up, cummins have no business in the team

So what ? Why you need Siddle in the line up rather than Cummins who is Young and Pacy and future of Aussies..while SIddle hardly plays 10 intl matches in a year...

if i were the selector of CA i would definitely kick out Siddle and get in Cummins

ahem ahem

i guess you remember the india vs australia series 2011/12 and siddle's performance

I do remember him getting Tendulkar bowled on 93 in the last over of the day and missing tendulkar's 100th 100 ...

but you cant say this time too he will perform in same way and who will need to leave out Pat CUmmins who picked up 7 against Proteas in their home turf and also stealed victory from them by scoring 15 crucial runs ?

You cant leave out Cummins as far as i concern

siddle and hilfenhaus played that series vs india only because cummins was injured

so there has to be strong reason to drop siddle or hilfy, they both performed well vs india and then vs windies, there has to be strong reason to drop them .

you cannot drop them because cummins is 19 yr old and probable future star

+ Ryan harris will also be back, where to fit cummins


going by your logic, why not drop gambhir and sehwag and bring unmukt chand then, chand is also 19 and much better batsman than sehwag and gambhir currently on form, purely on form

Lol you are comparing with an undebuted one

Even Cummins has performed well in his last test at Durban isnt it ?

now he is fit as well why not bring him back ?? WHy only Siddle ?

You cannot drop Hifly in these conditions because he is the key weapon for aussies....and Strike bowler..Even Starc...
and Pattinson no way to drop him after getting 6 wickets in recent matches..

But whats use of Siddle...he is just being used as Extra Seamer but nothing else..

I am sure he wont be given chance in XI ahead of pattinson,Starc,Hily,Ryan

Siddle is not much of swing bowler..he is an old ball specialist isnt ? if he has to be taken into XI then aussies should go with 4 fast bowlers ,.,

Will they ?

mistake mistake mistake

Peter Siddle is the leader of australian bowling attack after johnson went

Siddle will play the series, confirmed
before that he is going to play 4 shield matches

then you will drop Pattinson/Starc ?
then that would be more controversial ...

Pattinson in form of his life and Starc- no need to say about him at present i guess..

I agree siddle was the leader of Aussies attack but remember when HIfly came back what happened ?>
Hilfy,Pattinson shared new ball or else RYan and HIlfy shared new ball ...but not the Siddle..He was used as Old ball Specialist..
but now Pattinson and Starc are there...So Starc and Hilfy go ahed in first overs ..Pattinson to follow..

where will u fit siddle in this line up unless it is Perth they cant take 4 seamers and get in siddle ..

Just because he is Leader of Aussie attack when MItchy left and performed well in 2 series and Named as "TEST" specialist you cant leave out Starc/Pattinson

purely on form and the lessons he learned from mcdermott after lankan tour last year, siddle will be in my team anytime ,anyday currently

Siddle
Hilfenhaus/lyon
Pattionson
Harris

4 bowlers

Dropping HIlfy and Starc :O :O

Anyday my team would be Hilfy,Starc,Pattinson,Lyon/Cummins..

never Siddle ..
i would like to have more of Josh Hazlewood ahead of Siddle..

you want to play all debutants against africa

they will turn australian bowlers into pieces and powder

NOt all debutants ..

Hilfy,Pattinson isnt debutants ..
and Starc a new learner..
so what ?

Remember this is the turf the boys have been brought up ..

pattinson just played 4-5 matches, that doesn't make him experienced bowlers

But he has bowled some of the best batsman in the world i guess..

and he can get tips from their bowling coach and work it on ..

and he is in form ...Hilfy is there to guide him i guess..

[Haseeh]

Deep,could you please gimme scorecard of that low scoring craziest match happened last year?

[Mad max]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

[Mad max]

Deep,could you please gimme scorecard of that low scoring craziest match happened last year?

want this

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/514030.html

[Deep Dey]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

its test cricket

you cant keep on rotating players unless they are injured

remember next year 2 ashes are there

you can't play 1 set of bowlers vs sa then 1 set of other bowlers vs sri lanka and then again 1 set of different bowlers vs india and then vs england

its test cricket

[Mad max]

But has to salute to this fast bowlers..

Today i got understood how hard is bowling fast on the pitches as we think its not just running in and bowl

to get bounce you has to hit deck hard on Turf..

today i had the first experience to bowl on Turf...

my goodness

for just bowling 2 balls my shoulder got stuck up .. i couldnt bowl for 10 mins again :O :O :O

[Mad max]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

its test cricket

you cant keep on rotating players unless they are injured

remember next year 2 ashes are there

you can't play 1 set of bowlers vs sa then 1 set of other bowlers vs sri lanka and then again 1 set of different bowlers vs india and then vs england

its test cricket

but continuing same Attack would seem that they all will be tired by starting of Ashes..

They has to be kept as fresh as they can

[Deep Dey]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

its test cricket

you cant keep on rotating players unless they are injured

remember next year 2 ashes are there

you can't play 1 set of bowlers vs sa then 1 set of other bowlers vs sri lanka and then again 1 set of different bowlers vs india and then vs england

its test cricket

but continuing same Attack would seem that they all will be tired by starting of Ashes..

They has to be kept as fresh as they can

Siddle has clearly stated his focus is on test cricket purely till the end of double ashes

Hilfenhaus doesn't play tooooooo much odis

Ryan harris toooooooooo doesnt play odi much

These 3 will always be fresh for every series

[Mad max]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

its test cricket

you cant keep on rotating players unless they are injured

remember next year 2 ashes are there

you can't play 1 set of bowlers vs sa then 1 set of other bowlers vs sri lanka and then again 1 set of different bowlers vs india and then vs england

its test cricket

but continuing same Attack would seem that they all will be tired by starting of Ashes..

They has to be kept as fresh as they can

Siddle has clearly stated his focus is on test cricket purely till the end of double ashes

Hilfenhaus doesn't play tooooooo much odis

Ryan harris toooooooooo doesnt play odi much

These 3 will always be fresh for every series

So now if Siddle or Ryan Harris gets hammered who are replacement ?

There has to be a replacement...Pattinson and Starc keeps playing all along the Year ...Cummins you just said about his fitness

[Deep Dey]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

its test cricket

you cant keep on rotating players unless they are injured

remember next year 2 ashes are there

you can't play 1 set of bowlers vs sa then 1 set of other bowlers vs sri lanka and then again 1 set of different bowlers vs india and then vs england

its test cricket

but continuing same Attack would seem that they all will be tired by starting of Ashes..

They has to be kept as fresh as they can

Siddle has clearly stated his focus is on test cricket purely till the end of double ashes

Hilfenhaus doesn't play tooooooo much odis

Ryan harris toooooooooo doesnt play odi much

These 3 will always be fresh for every series

So now if Siddle or Ryan Harris gets hammered who are replacement ?

There has to be a replacement...Pattinson and Starc keeps playing all along the Year ...Cummins you just said about his fitness

If siddle ,hilfenhaus, harris plays

then either of starc or pattinson will get rest na

[Haseeh]

Not that Madmax.. I wanna that low scoring thriller in which Aus all out below 50

[Mad max]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

its test cricket

you cant keep on rotating players unless they are injured

remember next year 2 ashes are there

you can't play 1 set of bowlers vs sa then 1 set of other bowlers vs sri lanka and then again 1 set of different bowlers vs india and then vs england

its test cricket

but continuing same Attack would seem that they all will be tired by starting of Ashes..

They has to be kept as fresh as they can

Siddle has clearly stated his focus is on test cricket purely till the end of double ashes

Hilfenhaus doesn't play tooooooo much odis

Ryan harris toooooooooo doesnt play odi much

These 3 will always be fresh for every series

So now if Siddle or Ryan Harris gets hammered who are replacement ?

There has to be a replacement...Pattinson and Starc keeps playing all along the Year ...Cummins you just said about his fitness

If siddle ,hilfenhaus, harris plays

then either of starc or pattinson will get rest na

But they play ODI's nah and they will be tired..If one of those 3 gets hammered in one test match and then Starc or Pattinson should play in next match...

So rest of 4 days is enough ?

[Mad max]

Not that Madmax.. I wanna that low scoring thriller in which Aus all out below 50

ohh that ..

That too in same series
lemme search

[Mad max]

Not that Madmax.. I wanna that low scoring thriller in which Aus all out below 50

http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-australia-2011/engine/match/514029.html

this one

[Deep Dey]

Now this comes up
Where is Trent Copeland ?

he is there somewhere

you can't play all of them together

i know we cant play all of them together..if we have to pick best fast bowlers in Aussies its impossible

But why cant CA try this ...bringing in new face for every series...Give rest or one bowler
like

Try Cummins now ..rest Pattinson for next and get in Hazlewood.and rest some other and get in other


good idea isnt it ?

its test cricket

you cant keep on rotating players unless they are injured

remember next year 2 ashes are there

you can't play 1 set of bowlers vs sa then 1 set of other bowlers vs sri lanka and then again 1 set of different bowlers vs india and then vs england

its test cricket

but continuing same Attack would seem that they all will be tired by starting of Ashes..

They has to be kept as fresh as they can

Siddle has clearly stated his focus is on test cricket purely till the end of double ashes

Hilfenhaus doesn't play tooooooo much odis

Ryan harris toooooooooo doesnt play odi much

These 3 will always be fresh for every series

So now if Siddle or Ryan Harris gets hammered who are replacement ?

There has to be a replacement...Pattinson and Starc keeps playing all along the Year ...Cummins you just said about his fitness

If siddle ,hilfenhaus, harris plays

then either of starc or pattinson will get rest na

But they play ODI's nah and they will be tired..If one of those 3 gets hammered in one test match and then Starc or Pattinson should play in next match...

So rest of 4 days is enough ?

Australia don't have tooooooooo many odis till double ashes ends

only 10 odis

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