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First topic message reminder :
Ceat Cricket Ratings was the 1st International Cricket Rating System.
Since none of us have the time to find out who won the matches at what point of the series/tournament etc etc,I have used Ceat System to come to a starting point.
Taking all the ODI matches into consideration before CWC December,I have made the following table:
1.6 pts have been given for each win.
2.0 pts for each loss(No way on Earth negative pts can be given)
3.Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points, Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on
4.Series + P = Total no. of matches before CWC + Total no. of series
5.To adjust the Rating Points wrt ICC Ratings,a multiplying factor of 25 is used: Overall Pts=[(Wins*6*25)+(BP*25)], Rating Pts=Overall Pts/(Series+P).
Now,I suggest to use ICC's Rating System with little modification that ICC's System doesn't give BP in ODI's,but we will give it.
RP=Rating Points
A Series will be counted as 1 match.
If the gap between the RP of the 2 teams before the start of the match is fewer than 40 points, then:
a.The winner scores 50 points more than the opponent's RP
b.The loser scores 50 points fewer than the opponent's RP
c.Each team in a tie scores the opponent's RP
B.If the gap between the RP of the two teams before the start of the match is more than or equal to 40 points, then :
a.The winner, if it is the stronger team, scores 10 points more than its own RP
b.The winner, if it is the weaker team, scores 90 points more than its RP
c.The loser, if it is the stronger team, scores 90 points fewer than its RP
d.The loser, if it is the weaker team, scores 10 points fewer than its own RP
e.The stronger team in a tie scores 40 points fewer than its own RP
f.The weaker team in a tie scores 40 points more than its own RP
In the 2nd Case stronger team means the team with higher RP.
BP will be awarded only for winning the series/tournament at last:
Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points,
Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on.
BP will be multiplied by 25 to adjust to ICC Ratings.This BP*25 will be added to the Match Points.
Calculate the points for a match add it to previous overall points,then divide by (Series + P).Note: Count the series only after it ends.
eg:cosmos won vs superstar in CWC.
Before start of the match the difference between their RP was 40,so 2nd case will be used:
Hence, points for Cosmos=10+90=100, Points for SS=50-10=40
These pts will be added to previous overall pts.
Hence,now Overall pts for Cosmos= 1625+100=1725,Overall pts for SS=300+40=340
To get rating Pts, for Cosmos= overall points/19, for SS=overall pts/7
Note:The number of matches taken here: its 19 & 7 not 15 & 5.i hope you got it what i am trying to say here.
So suppose SS gets eliminated in the 1st round itself,2 matches should be considered at the end of their last match in the event & not 1.
Case 1: If it is not implemented- No Problem.
Case 2: If it is implemented,atleast 2 more people should know this method in case my PC is damaged,they will do that job as I don't use Cell phone,I won't be able to connect anytime.You have to concentrate on only the part which is highlighted in BOLD above.
This Calculation hardly requires a time:
If calculation done scientific Calci or normal calci or PC calci or Mobile calci or any other device,it hardly takes 1-2 minutes to find & recheck the calculation
If calculation is done by mental methods,Abacus,Logarithm Table,Vedic maths or any other method,it will take hardly 5-6 minutes to find and recheck the
calcuation.
SAME METHOD FOR T20 ALSO. I Haven't Prepared the table yet
Ceat Cricket Ratings was the 1st International Cricket Rating System.
Since none of us have the time to find out who won the matches at what point of the series/tournament etc etc,I have used Ceat System to come to a starting point.
Taking all the ODI matches into consideration before CWC December,I have made the following table:
1.6 pts have been given for each win.
2.0 pts for each loss(No way on Earth negative pts can be given)
3.Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points, Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on
4.Series + P = Total no. of matches before CWC + Total no. of series
5.To adjust the Rating Points wrt ICC Ratings,a multiplying factor of 25 is used: Overall Pts=[(Wins*6*25)+(BP*25)], Rating Pts=Overall Pts/(Series+P).
Team Name | P | W | L | Overall Pts | Rating Pts | Series W,L | Series+P |
Cosmos | 15 | 10 | 5 | 1625 | 90 | 2,1 | 18 |
Hawks | 15 | 8 | 7 | 1325 | 74 | 2,1 | 18 |
Dominators | 15 | 8 | 7 | 950 | 72 | 2,1 | 18 |
Warriors | 14 | 7 | 7 | 1100 | 65 | 1,2 | 17 |
Dynamos | 14 | 6 | 8 | 950 | 56 | 1,2 | 17 |
Champions | 15 | 6 | 9 | 950 | 53 | 1,2 | 18 |
Strikers | 5 | 2 | 3 | 300 | 50 | 0,1 | 6 |
Superstars | 5 | 2 | 3 | 300 | 50 | 0,1 | 6 |
Mafia | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0,0 | 0 |
Dragons | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0,0 | 0 |
RP=Rating Points
A Series will be counted as 1 match.
If the gap between the RP of the 2 teams before the start of the match is fewer than 40 points, then:
a.The winner scores 50 points more than the opponent's RP
b.The loser scores 50 points fewer than the opponent's RP
c.Each team in a tie scores the opponent's RP
B.If the gap between the RP of the two teams before the start of the match is more than or equal to 40 points, then :
a.The winner, if it is the stronger team, scores 10 points more than its own RP
b.The winner, if it is the weaker team, scores 90 points more than its RP
c.The loser, if it is the stronger team, scores 90 points fewer than its RP
d.The loser, if it is the weaker team, scores 10 points fewer than its own RP
e.The stronger team in a tie scores 40 points fewer than its own RP
f.The weaker team in a tie scores 40 points more than its own RP
In the 2nd Case stronger team means the team with higher RP.
BP will be awarded only for winning the series/tournament at last:
Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points,
Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on.
BP will be multiplied by 25 to adjust to ICC Ratings.This BP*25 will be added to the Match Points.
Calculate the points for a match add it to previous overall points,then divide by (Series + P).Note: Count the series only after it ends.
eg:cosmos won vs superstar in CWC.
Before start of the match the difference between their RP was 40,so 2nd case will be used:
Hence, points for Cosmos=10+90=100, Points for SS=50-10=40
These pts will be added to previous overall pts.
Hence,now Overall pts for Cosmos= 1625+100=1725,Overall pts for SS=300+40=340
To get rating Pts, for Cosmos= overall points/19, for SS=overall pts/7
Note:The number of matches taken here: its 19 & 7 not 15 & 5.i hope you got it what i am trying to say here.
So suppose SS gets eliminated in the 1st round itself,2 matches should be considered at the end of their last match in the event & not 1.
Case 1: If it is not implemented- No Problem.
Case 2: If it is implemented,atleast 2 more people should know this method in case my PC is damaged,they will do that job as I don't use Cell phone,I won't be able to connect anytime.You have to concentrate on only the part which is highlighted in BOLD above.
This Calculation hardly requires a time:
If calculation done scientific Calci or normal calci or PC calci or Mobile calci or any other device,it hardly takes 1-2 minutes to find & recheck the calculation
If calculation is done by mental methods,Abacus,Logarithm Table,Vedic maths or any other method,it will take hardly 5-6 minutes to find and recheck the
calcuation.
SAME METHOD FOR T20 ALSO. I Haven't Prepared the table yet
Last edited by Deep Dey on Wed 21 Dec 2011, 9:33 pm; edited 3 times in total
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hope one day we can go at the top too
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but thats really hard because we have a lot of strong teams in this site now
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but we will not loose hope we will try out best every match we play
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Well
Deep you can implement this
WE AGREE FOR THIS
even if we loose ranking we have faith that we can get it back
and Awesome work Deep
Mr.Scientist
Deep you can implement this
WE AGREE FOR THIS
even if we loose ranking we have faith that we can get it back
and Awesome work Deep
Mr.Scientist
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Wonderfull job Expert Deep
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Aqi stop stating the obvious
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Fardin(Mr. Perfection) wrote:Aqi stop stating the obvious
well caught
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IncreDIBLE WORK FRM DEEP..
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I saw tis thread yestrday itself,bt by seeing the descriptn i thought tis was smethng els
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Will Produce the T20 and Odi by tomorrow
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Job have started .
In 59 hrs from now on,Results will come up
In 59 hrs from now on,Results will come up
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i knew buddy when i was assigning works . this job couldnt have been done in more better way then this.. awesome work n u kept your promiseDeep Dey wrote:bchattopadhyay wrote:phew just finished 2 things...
readin it n understandin it n came to only one conclusion...
borda bapok idea...haar heem kore dewa idea n concept...
awesm work dada...;)
Struggle for 5 days to make with logical sense.
If I was here since the beginning of cricism , it would have been even more shorter.
i promised Eishan for this 4 days ago.Got it delayed by 2 days
incredible work
also i would like to ask so wats been finalised? Case A or Case B ?
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thats true sportmenship brotherSJ wrote:Well
Deep you can implement this
WE AGREE FOR THIS
even if we loose ranking we have faith that we can get it back
and Awesome work Deep
Mr.Scientist
i seriously think u can really cover up watver may be the difference aftr its been adopted
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Eishan Jain wrote:i knew buddy when i was assigning works . this job couldnt have been done in more better way then this.. awesome work n u kept your promiseDeep Dey wrote:bchattopadhyay wrote:phew just finished 2 things...
readin it n understandin it n came to only one conclusion...
borda bapok idea...haar heem kore dewa idea n concept...
awesm work dada...;)
Struggle for 5 days to make with logical sense.
If I was here since the beginning of cricism , it would have been even more shorter.
i promised Eishan for this 4 days ago.Got it delayed by 2 days
incredible work
also i would like to ask so wats been finalised? Case A or Case B ?
Both case will be used
Rankings depend on what type of opposition you play.
Case A suggests if you play a team with equal strength then follow this.
Case B suggests if you play a team with too much difference follow this(like when news are playing,so they have 0 pts now.According to that,they are weak teams)
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hmmm good job then will help new teams to quickly gain equivalent points to old teams .. they dont have to play so many matches. just need to play better
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Yes
But who goona manage it in the absence of u
But who goona manage it in the absence of u
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Thats why I made,so that we can have fluctuation in pts every day after every match.
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Yo Yo wrote:Yes
But who goona manage it in the absence of u
well thats the question,I will be available unless my PC gets damaged.
NRR is different thing as it is for small time.If I am not there ,SV can use his method.
Ranking is different it will be followed forever.
It is very simple to calculate.
I have made it even simpler now in my new thread
http://www.cwforums.net/t2270-cw-rankings#155334
Don't comment and Read in that thread now before 59 hrs get over
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well sourav got the method n deep made it so we have 2 members.. i got the basics of it. but wont be sure unless i do it actually. so i guess its done
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@Eishan
I have made it even more simpler now.
Just wait 58 hrs .
Then Read the new one.
Just skipped one point from the above because I am master in calculating it but I cannot expect that everyone will be mastered in that.so have made it a bit simpler for everyone's understanding.
If I wish,I could have made even more tougher,but have to respect the limitations of others also .
I haven't used the entire ICC's method here,just used 80% of what they do
I have made it even more simpler now.
Just wait 58 hrs .
Then Read the new one.
Just skipped one point from the above because I am master in calculating it but I cannot expect that everyone will be mastered in that.so have made it a bit simpler for everyone's understanding.
If I wish,I could have made even more tougher,but have to respect the limitations of others also .
I haven't used the entire ICC's method here,just used 80% of what they do
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Deep is the feature Admin for sure because of his great work.
Hats off buddy.
Hats off buddy.
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@eishan
Just wait 58 hrs
then look here:
http://www.cwforums.net/t2270-cw-rankings#155334
Just wait 58 hrs
then look here:
http://www.cwforums.net/t2270-cw-rankings#155334
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