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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 9:21 pm
Ceat Cricket Ratings was the 1st International Cricket Rating System.
Since none of us have the time to find out who won the matches at what point of the series/tournament etc etc,I have used Ceat System to come to a starting point.
Taking all the ODI matches into consideration before CWC December,I have made the following table:
1.6 pts have been given for each win.
2.0 pts for each loss(No way on Earth negative pts can be given)
3.Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points, Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on
4.Series + P = Total no. of matches before CWC + Total no. of series
5.To adjust the Rating Points wrt ICC Ratings,a multiplying factor of 25 is used: Overall Pts=[(Wins*6*25)+(BP*25)], Rating Pts=Overall Pts/(Series+P).
Now,I suggest to use ICC's Rating System with little modification that ICC's System doesn't give BP in ODI's,but we will give it.
RP=Rating Points
A Series will be counted as 1 match.
If the gap between the RP of the 2 teams before the start of the match is fewer than 40 points, then:
a.The winner scores 50 points more than the opponent's RP
b.The loser scores 50 points fewer than the opponent's RP
c.Each team in a tie scores the opponent's RP
B.If the gap between the RP of the two teams before the start of the match is more than or equal to 40 points, then :
a.The winner, if it is the stronger team, scores 10 points more than its own RP
b.The winner, if it is the weaker team, scores 90 points more than its RP
c.The loser, if it is the stronger team, scores 90 points fewer than its RP
d.The loser, if it is the weaker team, scores 10 points fewer than its own RP
e.The stronger team in a tie scores 40 points fewer than its own RP
f.The weaker team in a tie scores 40 points more than its own RP
In the 2nd Case stronger team means the team with higher RP.
BP will be awarded only for winning the series/tournament at last:
Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points,
Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on.
BP will be multiplied by 25 to adjust to ICC Ratings.This BP*25 will be added to the Match Points.
Calculate the points for a match add it to previous overall points,then divide by (Series + P).Note: Count the series only after it ends.
eg:cosmos won vs superstar in CWC.
Before start of the match the difference between their RP was 40,so 2nd case will be used:
Hence, points for Cosmos=10+90=100, Points for SS=50-10=40
These pts will be added to previous overall pts.
Hence,now Overall pts for Cosmos= 1625+100=1725,Overall pts for SS=300+40=340
To get rating Pts, for Cosmos= overall points/19, for SS=overall pts/7
Note:The number of matches taken here: its 19 & 7 not 15 & 5.i hope you got it what i am trying to say here.
So suppose SS gets eliminated in the 1st round itself,2 matches should be considered at the end of their last match in the event & not 1.
Case 1: If it is not implemented- No Problem.
Case 2: If it is implemented,atleast 2 more people should know this method in case my PC is damaged,they will do that job as I don't use Cell phone,I won't be able to connect anytime.You have to concentrate on only the part which is highlighted in BOLD above.
This Calculation hardly requires a time:
If calculation done scientific Calci or normal calci or PC calci or Mobile calci or any other device,it hardly takes 1-2 minutes to find & recheck the calculation
If calculation is done by mental methods,Abacus,Logarithm Table,Vedic maths or any other method,it will take hardly 5-6 minutes to find and recheck the
calcuation.
SAME METHOD FOR T20 ALSO. I Haven't Prepared the table yet
Since none of us have the time to find out who won the matches at what point of the series/tournament etc etc,I have used Ceat System to come to a starting point.
Taking all the ODI matches into consideration before CWC December,I have made the following table:
1.6 pts have been given for each win.
2.0 pts for each loss(No way on Earth negative pts can be given)
3.Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points, Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on
4.Series + P = Total no. of matches before CWC + Total no. of series
5.To adjust the Rating Points wrt ICC Ratings,a multiplying factor of 25 is used: Overall Pts=[(Wins*6*25)+(BP*25)], Rating Pts=Overall Pts/(Series+P).
| Team Name | P | W | L | Overall Pts | Rating Pts | Series W,L | Series+P |
| Cosmos | 15 | 10 | 5 | 1625 | 90 | 2,1 | 18 |
| Hawks | 15 | 8 | 7 | 1325 | 74 | 2,1 | 18 |
| Dominators | 15 | 8 | 7 | 950 | 72 | 2,1 | 18 |
| Warriors | 14 | 7 | 7 | 1100 | 65 | 1,2 | 17 |
| Dynamos | 14 | 6 | 8 | 950 | 56 | 1,2 | 17 |
| Champions | 15 | 6 | 9 | 950 | 53 | 1,2 | 18 |
| Strikers | 5 | 2 | 3 | 300 | 50 | 0,1 | 6 |
| Superstars | 5 | 2 | 3 | 300 | 50 | 0,1 | 6 |
| Mafia | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0,0 | 0 |
| Dragons | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0,0 | 0 |
RP=Rating Points
A Series will be counted as 1 match.
If the gap between the RP of the 2 teams before the start of the match is fewer than 40 points, then:
a.The winner scores 50 points more than the opponent's RP
b.The loser scores 50 points fewer than the opponent's RP
c.Each team in a tie scores the opponent's RP
B.If the gap between the RP of the two teams before the start of the match is more than or equal to 40 points, then :
a.The winner, if it is the stronger team, scores 10 points more than its own RP
b.The winner, if it is the weaker team, scores 90 points more than its RP
c.The loser, if it is the stronger team, scores 90 points fewer than its RP
d.The loser, if it is the weaker team, scores 10 points fewer than its own RP
e.The stronger team in a tie scores 40 points fewer than its own RP
f.The weaker team in a tie scores 40 points more than its own RP
In the 2nd Case stronger team means the team with higher RP.
BP will be awarded only for winning the series/tournament at last:
Bonus points for Series / Tournament wins has been given on the basis of no. of Teams participating in the event. For e.g. two teams = 2 points,
Triangular = 3 points, Quadrangular = 4 points and so on.
BP will be multiplied by 25 to adjust to ICC Ratings.This BP*25 will be added to the Match Points.
Calculate the points for a match add it to previous overall points,then divide by (Series + P).Note: Count the series only after it ends.
eg:cosmos won vs superstar in CWC.
Before start of the match the difference between their RP was 40,so 2nd case will be used:
Hence, points for Cosmos=10+90=100, Points for SS=50-10=40
These pts will be added to previous overall pts.
Hence,now Overall pts for Cosmos= 1625+100=1725,Overall pts for SS=300+40=340
To get rating Pts, for Cosmos= overall points/19, for SS=overall pts/7
Note:The number of matches taken here: its 19 & 7 not 15 & 5.i hope you got it what i am trying to say here.
So suppose SS gets eliminated in the 1st round itself,2 matches should be considered at the end of their last match in the event & not 1.
Case 1: If it is not implemented- No Problem.
Case 2: If it is implemented,atleast 2 more people should know this method in case my PC is damaged,they will do that job as I don't use Cell phone,I won't be able to connect anytime.You have to concentrate on only the part which is highlighted in BOLD above.
This Calculation hardly requires a time:
If calculation done scientific Calci or normal calci or PC calci or Mobile calci or any other device,it hardly takes 1-2 minutes to find & recheck the calculation
If calculation is done by mental methods,Abacus,Logarithm Table,Vedic maths or any other method,it will take hardly 5-6 minutes to find and recheck the
calcuation.
SAME METHOD FOR T20 ALSO. I Haven't Prepared the table yet
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 9:22 pm
Do not comment or Read Now.
Let me check for errors
Let me check for errors
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 9:33 pm
Now Comment
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by sV Wed 21 Dec 2011, 10:53 pm
I like this
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by sV Wed 21 Dec 2011, 10:54 pm
Superb work from Mr. Maths
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by sV Wed 21 Dec 2011, 10:55 pm
Can you devise a similar mechanism for T20s too ?
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by Aqi Wed 21 Dec 2011, 10:58 pm
wow deep awesome but some points got over the head
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by bchattopadhyay Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:01 pm
phew just finished 2 things...
readin it n understandin it n came to only one conclusion...
borda bapok idea...haar heem kore dewa idea n concept...
awesm work dada...;)
readin it n understandin it n came to only one conclusion...
borda bapok idea...haar heem kore dewa idea n concept...
awesm work dada...;)
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by Kush Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:02 pm
Very good criteria for CEAT Cricket Ratings
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by Aqi Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:04 pm
Really deep is a rockstar this is the reason he is the only cricket expert in CW
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:09 pm
sV wrote:Can you devise a similar mechanism for T20s too ?
ICC Uses Same method for T20 and ODI
So whatever i wrote above for ODI,it is same for T20.
I have just prepare the table to get the starting point like here I made the table.
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:10 pm
Aqi wrote:wow deep awesome but some points got over the head
I know.It was bound to happen.
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by Kush Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:11 pm
Yeah, One and the only Cw expert but the best
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by sV Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:11 pm
So this will be adopted for CW too
This is official now
Awesome work
This is official now
Awesome work
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:12 pm
bchattopadhyay wrote:phew just finished 2 things...
readin it n understandin it n came to only one conclusion...
borda bapok idea...haar heem kore dewa idea n concept...
awesm work dada...;)
Struggle for 5 days to make with logical sense.
If I was here since the beginning of cricism , it would have been even more shorter.
i promised Eishan for this 4 days ago.Got it delayed by 2 days
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:14 pm
@SV
You have to ask Dominators 1st.
Becaue if it is implemented,Dominators will loose their no. 1 ODI status.
In T20 ,there will be no problem as Cosmos way superior to others
You have to ask Dominators 1st.
Becaue if it is implemented,Dominators will loose their no. 1 ODI status.
In T20 ,there will be no problem as Cosmos way superior to others
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by Aqi Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:26 pm
I think they will have no problem with this
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:30 pm
Still,Its a duty to ask them
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:34 pm
Will Simultaneously Produce the T20 rankings and ODi Rankings upto tomorrows matches day after tomorrow
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by bchattopadhyay Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:46 pm
man one thg for sure...wat ever dream line u final end up in ur life by god's grace..never leave the espn work to anybody else n better get a licence for it permanently......u rock in this calculation dept..;)
...u rock in this calculation dept..;)
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:49 pm
Cricket is my 2nd love,Can't leave it anytime in future
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by Deep Dey Wed 21 Dec 2011, 11:56 pm
Seriously speaking ,I never liked NRR method and Ranking methods here .
But then I have to accept the limitations also.
.But then I have to accept the limitations also.
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by Fardin Kibria Thu 22 Dec 2011, 3:17 am
nice man
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by zaki Thu 22 Dec 2011, 4:34 am
nice work deep
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by zaki Thu 22 Dec 2011, 4:34 am
that are some really hard work
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