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Rish wrote:

Anurag wrote:LOl RIsh that slogan is in Stick Cricket

In T20 cricket, in damp pitches, it is almost impossible to slog, yet how do the teams reach good totals?

Nothing is Impossible in Cricket. That's what I think.
They are big cricketers and they can hit easily even it is Damp Pitches although it will be tough for them but still you need to slog in such a format.

Just Anchoring wont help in team.
That's what I feel.

You definitely need sloggers only.

Even Sloggers can bat well and stay for long if they play effective cricket.

What if you get a target of 175 when you are batting at Damp Pitch?
You will take singles only to reach that target or you will try your best to hit biggies off every ball???

Think over it again..

You will take singles only to reach that target

Rish wrote:

Sanjay wrote:Sloggers only???
Anchrs are very important in every format...

Not in T20. :O
If you disagree then you have to give strong answers to support your opinion.

Do you know one thing ?
Charles is Named as GAYLE OF WINDIES DOMESTIC CRICKET

How much of hitting requires to get that name ?
But still he did rotated the Strike because on other you have CHRISTOPHER HENRY GAYLE

Just like that you need to do in t20

Give the Strike to the Slogger
rotate the strike

Sloggers work is to hit out or get out

So as per ur idea T20 is HIT OUT or GET OUT

Not every day is sunday isnt it
So
at one day one team can score 200 and one day they can even get all out
even before 100 runs so that means that team doesnt deserve to called
as CHAMPIONS and lacks consistency

You need to have that Consistency in T20 format as well

For that Consistency you need to have --------->ANCHORS

Just answer me one thing
with all Sloggers did CSK won 2 IPL Titles,1 Clt20 Title and emerged as 2 times runners of IPL ?

All CSK players are SLOGGERs ?
The ans would be NO
because their most consistent batsman after Raina is an ANCHOR
The reason why they won 2011 IPL was Michael Hussey who is an ANCHOR
the reason why they came to Finals in 2012 was Faf Du Plessis who acted as an ANCHOR Some times and even as SLOGGER some times

The only Non-famous and Non-t20 Specialist to play Most matches after Raina for CSK is Badrinath is an ANCHOR

The reason why India won T20 World Cup 2007--thanks to 50 by Gambhir is an ANCHOR

The reason why England got Soo Close to the target Vs West Indies in T20 World Cup 2012 even after being 4/2 was innings of ALex Hales acted as ANCHOR while Morgan was aggressor.

Only Sloggers can save your team or else, get ready to lose.

Rish wrote:

Do you know one thing ?
Charles is Named as GAYLE OF WINDIES DOMESTIC CRICKET

How much of hitting requires to get that name ?
But still he did rotated the Strike because on other you have CHRISTOPHER HENRY GAYLE

Just like that you need to do in t20

Give the Strike to the Slogger
rotate the strike

Sloggers work is to hit out or get out

So as per ur idea T20 is HIT OUT or GET OUT

Not every day is sunday isnt it
So
at one day one team can score 200 and one day they can even get all out
even before 100 runs so that means that team doesnt deserve to called
as CHAMPIONS and lacks consistency

You need to have that Consistency in T20 format as well

For that Consistency you need to have --------->ANCHORS

What's the use of calling him Gayle if he wont fire??? :O
If he is the slogger, then why he is also not hitting? Gayle wont mind if Charles will also hit. WIll he??

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/423788.html
Just have a look at this match. :O

See how Australia batted even if the target was of 215. Every player batted brilliantly as they knew that they need to bat aggressively or else they will lose this. :O

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/456991.html
Now have a look at this match. :O

None player of Sri Lanka batted well because of which they lost. :O

So even if target is less, you have to bat well or else you will lose. You need one slogger or else team will lose. :O
Sri Lanka were trying their best to keep on rotating the strike but still they failed to score. :O

Just answer me one thing
with all Sloggers did CSK won 2 IPL Titles,1 Clt20 Title and emerged as 2 times runners of IPL ?

All CSK players are SLOGGERs ?
The ans would be NO
because their most consistent batsman after Raina is an ANCHOR
The reason why they won 2011 IPL was Michael Hussey who is an ANCHOR
the reason why they came to Finals in 2012 was Faf Du Plessis who acted as an ANCHOR Some times and even as SLOGGER some times

Some scorecards please to prove that Raina or Faf or Hussey was Anchor. :O
Because if everyone was anchor then how they were able to reach finals??

They just came into the finals because of their luck, that's it. Otherwise CSK is the worst team I have ever seen. :O

The only Non-famous and Non-t20 Specialist to play Most matches after Raina for CSK is Badrinath is an ANCHOR

The reason why India won T20 World Cup 2007--thanks to 50 by Gambhir is an ANCHOR

The reason why England got Soo Close to the target Vs West Indies in T20 World Cup 2012 even after being 4/2 was innings of ALex Hales acted as ANCHOR while Morgan was aggressor.

Badri is useless if we talk about Int. Cricket :O
Look at his S/R in ODIs and T20 (although he played 1 match and that also they won just because of brilliant stuff by Yusuf and Bhajji with bat and then there bowling helped them to win this :O)

Finals of 2007 World Cup, Gambhir was brilliant but he batted with a good S/R. He was taking singles but he was also hitting boundaries. At times even he fire so you cant call him anchor. :O
For this match he was slogger and he got brilliant support by Rohit Sharma who was aggressive as well. But I think they won because of their bowling. :O

Pakistan would have won that match if they would have batted aggressively but Younis and Misbah just spoiled the efforts of Imran Nazir. :O


I will keep on saying that Anchors no use. :O
Only Sloggers can save your team or else, get ready to lose.

Rish wrote:Pakistan would have won that match if they would have batted
aggressively but Younis and Misbah just spoiled the efforts of Imran
Nazir.

I said THEIR MOST CONSISTENT PERFORMER
AFTER RAINA IS AN ANCHOR That means Most consistent performer after
Raina for CSK is Badrinath he is an ANCHOR

Everyone was not anchor in CSk
Vijay a SLOGGER
Dhoni some times ANchor and some times SLOGGER
Morkel Slogger
Dwayne Bravo slogger
Raina SLOGGEr
jadeja Slogger

Michael,Faf,Badri as ANCHORS

Do understand what i said

ANCHOR DOESNT MEAN TAKING SINGLES
IT ALSO MEANS THAT GETTING ODD BOUNDARY

GAMBHIR,KOHLI,Michael Hussey,FAF DU PLESSIS,BADRINATH,AMBATI RAYUDU,JACQUES KALLIS etc.. are all ANCHORS

thats what i want to say

and i said

its time for to say Good bye

Had a good debate

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:Pakistan would have won that match if they would have batted
aggressively but Younis and Misbah just spoiled the efforts of Imran
Nazir.

How they batted was not Anchor role. Because that cant be termed as "Sensible Batting". Misbah's innings was terrible when we see the condition at hand.

He would be termed Sheet Anchor if he wouldve batted steadily and led his team to victory.

So this point is irrelevant as the innings played by them were not that of a Sheet Anchor.

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Rish wrote:

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:Pakistan would have won that match if they would have batted
aggressively but Younis and Misbah just spoiled the efforts of Imran
Nazir.

How they batted was not Anchor role. Because that cant be termed as "Sensible Batting". Misbah's innings was terrible when we see the condition at hand.

He would be termed Sheet Anchor if he wouldve batted steadily and led his team to victory.

So this point is irrelevant as the innings played by them were not that of a Sheet Anchor.

Sheet Anchor and Anchor are slightly different terms.
Sheet Anchor means rotating the strike so that other batsman can score rapidly and Anchor means to score on your own by batting defensively.

Source : Wiki

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:Pakistan would have won that match if they would have batted
aggressively but Younis and Misbah just spoiled the efforts of Imran
Nazir.

How they batted was not Anchor role. Because that cant be termed as "Sensible Batting". Misbah's innings was terrible when we see the condition at hand.

He would be termed Sheet Anchor if he wouldve batted steadily and led his team to victory.

So this point is irrelevant as the innings played by them were not that of a Sheet Anchor.

Sheet Anchor and Anchor are slightly different terms.
Sheet Anchor means rotating the strike so that other batsman can score rapidly and Anchor means to score on your own by batting defensively.

Source : Wiki

Link please

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:Pakistan would have won that match if they would have batted
aggressively but Younis and Misbah just spoiled the efforts of Imran
Nazir.

How they batted was not Anchor role. Because that cant be termed as "Sensible Batting". Misbah's innings was terrible when we see the condition at hand.

He would be termed Sheet Anchor if he wouldve batted steadily and led his team to victory.

So this point is irrelevant as the innings played by them were not that of a Sheet Anchor.

Sheet Anchor and Anchor are slightly different terms.
Sheet Anchor means rotating the strike so that other batsman can score rapidly and Anchor means to score on your own by batting defensively.

Source : Wiki

Link please

A top-order batsman capable of batting for a long duration throughout
the innings. Usually batsmen playing at numbers 3 or 4 play such a role,
especially if there is a batting collapse. An anchor plays defensively,
and is often the top scorer in the innings.

Anurag wrote:

A top-order batsman capable of batting for a long duration throughout
the innings. Usually batsmen playing at numbers 3 or 4 play such a role,
especially if there is a batting collapse. An anchor plays defensively,
and is often the top scorer in the innings.

A T20 Anchor doesn't only play defensively, he plays big shots as well

Throw Me Out wrote:

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:

Anurag wrote:

Rish wrote:Pakistan would have won that match if they would have batted
aggressively but Younis and Misbah just spoiled the efforts of Imran
Nazir.

How they batted was not Anchor role. Because that cant be termed as "Sensible Batting". Misbah's innings was terrible when we see the condition at hand.

He would be termed Sheet Anchor if he wouldve batted steadily and led his team to victory.

So this point is irrelevant as the innings played by them were not that of a Sheet Anchor.

Sheet Anchor and Anchor are slightly different terms.
Sheet Anchor means rotating the strike so that other batsman can score rapidly and Anchor means to score on your own by batting defensively.

Source : Wiki

Link please

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ISHAQ wrote:No , Not at necessary
T20 Is useless to be honest
Its just hitting and entertainment nothing else

saad wrote:NO it is not neccesary
In T20 , A player just have to hit ball out of the park

rish wrote:I strongly feel that der is no need of Anchor. Player must not think of playing an anchor role but instead he must aim to hit every ball just out of the ground.

This is T20.
You have to hit or it will create some serious pressure in your mind.

MI wrote:No ,Only Hitting Player Shld play T20

sai wrote:It is very much important for a player to not just hit the ball out of the park but also to play the ANCHOR ROLE..

At one side You have Chris Gayle and other side you have some other player..the other has to Rotate the Strike and give the strike back to Chris because he is Biggest hitter of Cricket ball..Just in case like that there is very much need to play anchor role ..rotate the strike and give to other batsman who can hit the ball better than you..

If he too goes for hittin and if he gets out then that will cost the game for the team..

T20 is just not about hittin but also Rotating the Strike...

You can hit 3 or may be 4 Sixes or may be 10 Sixes then what else ? you get out ..
Instead of that you rotate the strike and some way or other you find a boundary in middle and then ease pressure on BIG Hitters..

So that your run rate will be healty and at end you will have more wickets in hand which allows u to get BIG Score ..rather going for Blind HItting and getting out..

ankush wrote:It is important that A PLAYER SHOULD PLAY ANCHOR ROLE in T20 CRICKET AS WELL.
NOT JUST HITTING THE BALL OUT OF THE PARK BUT IS IT IMPORTANT THAT A PLAYER SHOULD PLAY ANCHOR ROLE AS WELL Anchor is needed in every format to lead his team to good totals. There is need of anchor in every team whether it be t20 champ windies(gayle/charles played tht role) or runner up(jayawardene was the best anchor in tourney). Players who try to hit every ball(e.g.sehwag) become highly unsuccessful in this format

ankush wrote:Example 1 : Gambhir played the role of sheet anchor and made india reach to a respective total as back 2 back wickets were falling on the other end. He played his role of anchor in 90% of the indian innings which helped rohit to score fast at the end of the innings.

Example 2 : Coming to bat in at 1 down for India , Virat Kohli played the sheet anchor after gambhir fell in 1st over. He kept rotating strike till the 1st 12-13 overs
but then he started to hit some biggies as he knew tht now india had plenty of wkts in hand. If he would’ve started to hit from 1st ball he faced and got out early then India may have lost tht match.

Example 3 : In this match not a single indian batsmen except rohit sharma tried to settle in first and then try to free their arms. They aimed to hit big from very first ball hence they kept losing their wickets. If they had tried to settle in 1st, india would have reached closer to the target and they may have won the match also

ankush wrote:not at all agreed with you on this buddy. ANCHORS are not need only and only when it is SUPER OVER

rish wrote:No.
What if only anchors batting in T20??
I completely disagree with this fact that we need Anchors in T20.

Laxman has no place in T20s and the reason is he is Anchor.

If you are a Slogger in T20, then only you can play this format.

ankush wrote:even kohli and amla are anchors
do you want to say tht they are not needed in t20?

rish wrote:Check their Strike Rate of every player for Indian team and Check the Target.
They are playing an Anchor role only na.

They failed to score because they were not able to hit and some sort of pressure was started building..

If you keep on hitting in the beginning, then only you can survive in this format or else you can say Tata Bye Bye to T20s

rish wrote:Virat Kohli has good Strike Rate in this format.
An Anchor is a top order batsman who plays defensively and is capable to bat for a long time during the innings. Often, he may become the top scorer of the innings. Generally, batsmen at the No. 3 or 4 position play such a role.

Kohli never plays defensively.
He is fast and used to play long innings.

raminder wrote:If you keep on hitting in the beginning, then only you can survive in this format or else you can say Tata Bye Bye to T20s.

Worst Statement

Ever saw Gayle hitting sixes in the beginning !?
He plays 4-5 overs carefully n then he goes of the kill.

It's not that you have to hit from the first ball !
Many teams play slow n safe in the first 10 overs n then go for the kill in the last 10 overs !

ankush wrote:who says anchor need to play defensively?
the role of anchor is to create pressure on opposition by taking quick 1s and 2s which keeps the scoreboard ticking and play as per requirement of team

sai wrote:First of all understand the difference between SHEET ANCHOR and ANCHOR ROLE

i am not saying that are Sheet anchors necesarry in T20
i am asking is it necesarry to play ANCHOR Role

see Jhonson Charles of West Indies is Nick Named as mini Gayle in Windies Domestic Cricket
He is such a big hitter and when he played in T20 World Cup opening with Chris Gayle
He played an Anchor Role

Anchor doesnt only mean to play defensive mode but it means that to Rotate the Strike and hit some boundaries in some way middle and ease the pressure of BIG hitters to come after him

Jhonson Charles just did that way
He did rotated the strike and gave back to Gayle and Gayle thrashed all of the bowlers

Though Charles just got one fifty but he was the main reason that GAyle got going in T20 Wc
He kept on rotating the strike and hit some boundaries in some way and thus made sure that Runs were coming from his side too that made Chris GAyle pressure less and play his Natural HItting game

Just watch Windies Vs England Match
The way Jhonson played was just awesome

until Gayle was there he just made sure that his Score was Run a Ball and singles were coming and Gayle got going
when Gayle was OUT charles just exploded

He hit some Big hits.and so eased pressure on Samuels

Even Jayawardena does that role whenever Dilshan gets going

That is such an important Role in T20 Cricket because if Both players go for HITTING there is Chance that Wickets will fall much more easily

There are some situations where 50 odd required from 20 balls then both should Start HItting

But when u are batting or even Chasing Target

Right from the start one should play the ANCHOR ROlE which makes sure that there are Wickets in Hand and there wont be pressure on BIG hitters yet to come

CSK was soo succesful just because of this formular

whenever CSK lost wickets early they would send Badri much earlier
Raina used to act as AGGRESSOR and Badri as Anchor

Even Du Plessis was in the same manner
When Wickets were falling at one END he made sure that He didnt throw his wicket cheaply

He just kept going till 12th or 13th over and then Start the BIg Htting

Against Windies
England lost 2 Wickets for just 3 runs but England lost to Windies by very little margin
Thanks to Hales Innings
ALex Hales played the anchor Role where as Eoin Morgan really went after the bowlers

thats what meant of Anchor Role

ANCHOR Role doesnt mean SHEET ANCHOR

where he would be BIG HITTER or any other

Its important one for to play the Anchor Role when the other player is getting runs better than him and hitting it sweet better than him

rish wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_cricket_terms
You will get a proper meaning of Anchor if you will check this.
An anchor plays defensively, and is often the top scorer in the innings

Anchor is really good for ODIs and even Tests but not for T20s.

Charles has scored 50+ only once and his Strike Rate is brilliant. When he scored 84, even Gayle scored 50 in that match. In rest matches he score near to 20 so what's the use of Anchor role there?

If he would have supported Gayle by hitting sixes as well then it would have been brilliant.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/engine/match/533289.html
Gayle failed to score in this match, so as Charles. Now what he was doing in this match?? He must have batted superbly in this match but he was not aggressive at all. Gayle and Charles both failed in this match because of which they lost.

Jayawardene is ok according to me. He bats well and score quickly even DIlshan is suppporting him.
Check the same match. If your S/R is 130+ then it is ok.

In the finale, http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/engine/match/533298.html he batted slowly because he thought target is too less but yet again West Indies won and Sri Lanka were choked. If he would played solid innings, they would have won easily.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/engine/match/533296.html In this match also Jaya and Dilshan both batted slowly but credit goes to their bowling because of which they were able to defend such a low total.


They have loads of players who can score runs quickly but when they dont do, their team loses.
You cant be dependent on 1 player only. Comeon yaar... This game is of 11 players out of which, 6 batsmen are there and if only 1 will play aggressively then how you can win any match?? Everyone has to hit in his format and there is just no need to rotate the innings. This is the Myntra of T20 :- Hit out or Get out.

Dhoni has extra potential to hit but if he plays too defensively, you will get n no. of criticizers for Dhoni that what he was doing.

So I disagree with the fact that we need Anchors in such a fast format.