Fighting Zone !

Lo agree with viresh

WAiting for deep'e next post
I will be included then

Yuvraj's selection is fine according to me. :O

sai wrote:Nzl in India 03/04---25 from 2 innings
India in pak 03/04--57.50 from 4 innings
Border Gavaskar Trohpy 04/05--15.66 from 4 innings
ind in Zim 05--18.50 from 2 innings
Sl in Ind 05/06--50.66 from 4 innings
INd in pak 05/06--57 from 3 innings
ENg in Ind 05/06--21.33 from 3 innings
ind in Wi 2006--17.33 from 7 innings
border gavasar trophy 07/08--4.25 from 4 innings
Saf in Ind 07/08 32 from 1 inning
Eng in Ind 08/09 --70 from 4 inning
india in nzl 08/09--31 from 5 innings
Sl in Ind 09/10--52.66 from 3 innings
ind in bangla--18.50 from 2 innings
india in Sl --28 from 2 innings
Pataudi Trophy--35 from 2 innings
Wi in INd--22 from 3 innings

So except in few innings he were poor in most of the occasions

You cant say such a batsman BETTER than a Player who averages 58 in FC

for ur kind info UV averages 45 in FC
less than Tiwary

point taken

arjun wrote:no it is not at all fair..yuvi shud playy more domestic games before being selcted into the test teams.we have seen him struggle in the t20cricket world cup this year.he is a great player,but he has lost some of his skills and alsoo very less stamina.so instead of yuvi some young players should have given chance

Ok arjun brings a new dimension of fitness and stamina

lets see anyone counters him

sanjay wrote:did not u seen his double century just days ago and performance against England XI
He has performed well in both the matches and took a 5 wicket haul
Is this not a great performance or not?

again same point

saad wrote:Manoj Tiwary can bat better than UV
His Stats shows it

and Bowling ok i agree he is not better bowler as UV

but UV is in team because of his batting not for his bowling

He is used as Third spinner
which Tiwary can do for some extent

Yuvi is a finisher and a good player at No.5 or No.6
and India needs a player like Yuvi
Manoj is a player who bast at No.4 so we dont have any place their thats y is not taken
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Yuvi is a finisher???

Does finisher,slogger,sheet anchor matters in tests???????????????

Sehwag used to bat at 5-6 in domestic cricket before debut, when he debuted in test, he became opener, so why can't tiwari bat at 5 or 6

sai wrote:Lol..Could u please tell me Which place Tendulkar bats in Tests and ODI's ?
Could u please tell me in which place does Virat Bats in Tests and ODI's ?

and in tests u need 6 not as Finisher u need him to be there and give support to Settled batsman and act as Aggressor some times..
and to score runs

Can Yuvraj score those same sixes against Jimmy with New ball in hand ?
NO

thats the case .u need some one to bat out sensibly and according to situation he has to accelerate

Tiwary can do that

Watch his 93 against England and his IPL innings or his 100 vs WI u will get to know his batting

i meant the same when i said Does finisher,slogger,sheet anchor matters in tests???????????????

ishaq wrote:Please Check yuvis stat at no 6

26 innings with avg of about 38 similar to his test avg, so nothing extravagant

ishaq wrote:Lol Manoj tiwary harldy batted at no 6
He is a no 4 batsman and There is sachin alrealy
Manoj can play once sachin retires

Again I say Yuvi Is the best batsman AT no 6 RIght now

so why can't yuvraj play after sachin retires??

ishaq wrote:And yuvi did nothing ?
His all 3 100's was at no 6 and 8 fifties too

point taken

sanjay wrote:Pls pls pls dont say a man with better average is the best

Inversely, A batsman with little low average need not be best either

ishaq wrote:Sai He did that in 39 innings So 11 innings out of 39 was good enough

and Tiwary can bat lower down the order because from thats where they came from

No NO You are wrong again Tiwary didnt come from there He started batting at no 5 right from his 4th first class match

Tiwary harldy did anything at no 6
His average is 58 just because of his contribution at no4 Hes been doing great there
nothing at no 6

Again Yuvraj IS the best choice at no 6 right now
Tiwary will have to wait till sachin retires

same point again i will say, if sehwag can become opener from middle order batsman why can't tiwari become lower batsman from middle order??

viresh wrote:I already said u forget the past....!
Look at his recent performance ...,\

For ur kind info , Yuvraj averaged abv 40 in 2007 , 2008 & 2009 ( INTERNATIONAL )
He was out of form in 2010 ... ( played only 5 inngs )

And...
Scoring 208 in an innings is useless ?

Taking 5 wickets in an innings is useless ?
He proved us that he CAN perform .

His pasts is his present he hasnt played anything between past and present


Yuvrag averaged 40 in 2007, ok - Just 2 test matches

Yuvraj averaged 40 in 2008, ok - just 4 test matches

Yuvraj averaged 40 in 2009, ok - just 6 test matches - so appreciable this time


if he has proved he can perform, why he wasnt permanent??

viresh wrote:IS YUVRAJ SINGH A BOWLER ?
You can't play with 4 bowlers against mighty English!!!!
We need a player who can build the partnership and have capability to break it !
Yuvraj Singh proved it by hitting 50 runs & 5 wicket haul

why so obsession with that 1 5 wicket and 50 runs in that lone match???

viresh wrote:Is there any guarantee that Ojha & Ashwin will rip through Eng Line Up ?
No , there isn't it...
Y to take risk by playing only 4 bowlers ?
Whats wrong by playing with AN all rounder ?
An All rounder can BAT & can BOWL!

Haseeh , good observation!!

ok good point

viresh wrote:He scored 209 & 50 BY MISTAKE?

LOL ..
Its just an example to state that Yuvraj Singh is "IN FORM"
Im not talking abt the inngs he played Years ago
TEST needs experience

again i say inexperience is pillar to become experience

viresh wrote: picking 2 wickets in a T20I match isn't GOOD ?
In T20WC , for India Yuvraj Singh was highest wicket taker after Balaji!!!
He scored more runs than Dhoni ...

saying again, t20 is not cricket

Tough job for deep this time
Still more posts to go

Viresh wrote:

when dravid and laxman were failing, all were talking about rohitsharma to be included in the side in australia
Hw can u say he is b8r dan dravid or laxman when he hadnt played any tests before??

LoL
Better than Dravid and Laxman..
You got it wrong..!
After seeing your statement , Rohit sharma himself will suicide

arre bhai sanjay said how can you say manoj tiwari is better than YUVI when didnt played any test


so how could one say rohit sharma was better than dravid and laxman when rohit too didnt played any test???
(if i am not wrong most people were crying to see rohit in white jersey in that including commentators)

Yaar yeh Fighting Zone kam aur Debate Zone zaada lag rha hai

First let manoj tiwary be a lower order batsman in FC then he can play tests if he performs :O

Ishaq wrote:First let manoj tiwary be a lower order batsman in FC then he can play tests if he performs

Manoj Tiwary not good for Test Matches. :O
He is good for ODIs and T20s.

Rish wrote:

Ishaq wrote:First let manoj tiwary be a lower order batsman in FC then he can play tests if he performs

Manoj Tiwary not good for Test Matches. :O
He is good for ODIs and T20s.

HLol Hes good at playing the longer version
But At no 4 only :O
He needs to start playing at no 6 in Fc and see

once again good participation today.

1st 2 days it was viresh vs sj all the way.

today we saw parth, deepak ,ishaq,sanjay in full action (new faces).

I must say today both sides were obsessed

Sai was obsessed with Manoj Tiwari.
@Sai for your god sake, there are many other cricketers apart from tiwari in indian domestic circuit.


On the other hand ,deepak,sanjay, viresh were obsessed with that 200+, 1 5 wicket haul, 1 50 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Today's winner : Sai Jagan


only because he attacked Yuvraj very well, while others were defending yuvraj with that 200+,1 5 wicket haul and 1 50

Congrats Sai!!
Ab yaar Cricket ke alawa kissi aur topic pe baat karo.

congrats sai

I never talked about that 200 and 5 wickets though
I was only attacking tiwary cause that was going on when I came in

Still I think Yuvi is far better than Tiwary because of his experience. :O

Ishaq wrote:congrats sai

I never talked about that 200 and 5 wickets though
I was only attacking tiwary cause that was going on when I came in

i am talking in general who were supporting yuvraj

AND DEEP U R FOREVER BANND TO TAKE PART IN TIS CONTEST

If topic will be interesting for me, then even I will take part tomorrow.

Yeah Its fine

Hope to see a good topic tomrrow as well

Throw Me Out wrote:

Ishaq wrote:congrats sai I never talked about that 200 and 5 wickets though I was only attacking tiwary cause that was going on when I came in

i am talking in general who were supporting yuvraj

I forgtn abt tis :O else i could have won it easily

NICK wrote:AND DEEP U R FOREVER BANND TO TAKE PART IN TIS CONTEST

What's the use of banning him?

NICK wrote:

Throw Me Out wrote:

Ishaq wrote:congrats sai I never talked about that 200 and 5 wickets though I was only attacking tiwary cause that was going on when I came in

i am talking in general who were supporting yuvraj

I forgtn abt tis :O else i could have won it easily

Lol TBh that 200+ was not a good point

Actually yivi is the best right cause there is no one better at no 6 than him

sanjay wrote:At that point of time,he was showing signs of affect on cancer in his body..

sanjay wrote:dats wat i am telling...u wer going on writing tiwary ws b8r dan UV//
In wat basis are u telling dat ?

u cant judge a batsman only by ranji performance

@sanjay

these points angered me a lot

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Whether he was showing signs of cancer or not thats not my problem, Kallis scored 100's in both innings vs india at capetown, 2011 with a broken rib.

Sir don bradman scored 270 on a dangerous pitch with influenza virus affecting him.

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then how did pujara make into test side??, then how did rohit booked his ticket to australia????
How did wasim jaffer,akash chopra played for india, how did sachin tendulkar,dravid........... made into indian team??

were they cricketers in mothers womb?????

Then why to have ranji matches?????????

Ranji matches may not have good quality as compared to other cricket boards doemstic circuit, but you can't say u cant judge a batsman only by ranji performance !!!!!!!!!

Ishaq wrote:

NICK wrote:

Throw Me Out wrote:

Ishaq wrote:congrats sai I never talked about that 200 and 5 wickets though I was only attacking tiwary cause that was going on when I came in

i am talking in general who were supporting yuvraj

I forgtn abt tis else i could have won it easily

Lol TBh that 200+ was not a good point

Actually yivi is the best right cause there is no one better at no 6 than him

Experience is also a + point for yuvi.

Bring DADA VS MSD TOPIC I wil participate for sure Wil suport dada 100%

NICK wrote:Bring DADA VS MSD TOPIC I wil participate for sure Wil suport dada 100%

Even I will support Dada but who will support MSD?
Saakshi??