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Syed Aqi wrote:

Rish wrote:

Saad Shafi Ahmed wrote:I think it is Fair to Rob Quiney a Chance ahead of them as they have got many chances in ODI and T20 Format
ANd he gets a chance in tests so its fair

He was not impressive today.

1 chance isnt enough to proof urself SRT scored a duck at his debut but now where is his position in cricket so 1 chance is basically not enough to show your talent

Yeah
And the others have got many chance in ODI and T20 Form of game

Rish wrote:

Syed Aqi wrote:

Rish wrote:

Saad Shafi Ahmed wrote:I think it is Fair to Rob Quiney a Chance ahead of them as they have got many chances in ODI and T20 Format
ANd he gets a chance in tests so its fair

He was not impressive today.

1 chance isnt enough to proof urself SRT scored a duck at his debut but now where is his position in cricket so 1 chance is basically not enough to show your talent

I am not judging him.
I am just telling that he was not impressive tonight.

That's it.

he will impress in future

Syed Aqi wrote:

Rish wrote:

Syed Aqi wrote:

Rish wrote:

Saad Shafi Ahmed wrote:I think it is Fair to Rob Quiney a Chance ahead of them as they have got many chances in ODI and T20 Format
ANd he gets a chance in tests so its fair

He was not impressive today.

1 chance isnt enough to proof urself SRT scored a duck at his debut but now where is his position in cricket so 1 chance is basically not enough to show your talent

I am not judging him.
I am just telling that he was not impressive tonight.

That's it.

he will impress in future

We have to wait to know more.

Is it good to replace an all rounder with a Pure Batsman instead an All rounder ?

No It is not good to have an All rounder replaced by a pure batsmen as they will miss their fifth bowler and it is quite nessecary to have an allrounder in a test match atleast 1

MadMax wrote:

i dont think u are getting me...
You need Faulkner to have some variety in the bowling ...

The Batsman get used to face the Right arm bowlers..

When the three quicks cant get rid off the batsman then how can Moises tell me..
The thing is that they need a bowler who can swing into the batsman and who has some variety in him

Left Arm Bowler would have been good and superbly balanced the team..

and Faulkner CAN bat as well.

Being born in Aus and brought on The bEllerive Pitch he has to be a GOod Puller of the ball..

So Faulkner is that kinda guy who can BAT decently and Bowl SUPERBLY

If they get in Moises they will only be benefitted in batting but not in Bowling

where as if they get in Faulkner they could get benefitted in Bowling and as well as Batting a bit too..

Faulkner comes in at 7 at that time all Bowlers would be little tired off and So Faulkner can play his Natural Hitting game..But if Moises comes into team he has to bat at 4 because Punter Moves to 3 and everyone knnows that Clarke is Superb when he comes out at no 5..

So getting IN faulkner would be very much beneficial and adds good balance to the team

Moises is just equal to Rob Quiney and Michael Hussey

Bowls Medium pace and Bats as well..

You need Faulkner to have some variety in the bowling
The Batsman get used to face the Right arm bowlers..

Look at his bowling stats.. :O
70 wickets in 50 Inngs
Its good enough to be a bowler!!!
Bowling Style doesn't matters here...
Even Watson was right arm bowler...
So there is no wrong in replacing Watson with Moises......

Im saying again and again OZ need a BATSMAN who have capability to pick wickets ( to break partnership )
Moises CAN!!

When the three quicks cant get rid off the batsman then how can Moises tell me..

So drop all three bowlers from the team and pick others na? ...
The topic is who is the better replacement for Watson not who bowls better......

Moises is just equal to Rob Quiney and Michael Hussey

LOL ...
Rob Quiney just have 3 wickets in FC where as Moises have 23*3=69+1=70 wickets ..
The probability that Rob Quiney bowls is very very less just like finding spam post of Deep Dey and he is part time bowler :O

Bowls Medium pace and Bats as well..

So wat ?
Medium Pace ain't good for tests ?
Even Faulkner is Medium Pacer ..
Faulkner : Bowling style Left-arm medium
Moises : Bowling style Right-arm fast-medium



As said by u :

You need Faulkner to have some variety in the bowling

Hifenhaus ,Siddle & Pattinson are fast bowlers while Moises is medium pacer ..
So isn't there variety? ;)
So don't look at their bowling style....
Even Pattinson have same bowling style as Moises.. :O

Faulkner comes in at 7 at that time all Bowlers would be little tired
off and So Faulkner can play his Natural Hitting game..But if Moises
comes into team he has to bat at 4 because Punter Moves to 3 and
everyone knnows that Clarke is Superb when he comes out at no 5

at 4? :shock: :shock:
Moises bats at 6/7 :O
And he is BEST at that position ...

So Faulkner is that kinda guy who can BAT decently and Bowl SUPERBLY

Moises is the guy who can pick wickets and can break partnership .. and BATS superbly
OZ need such player...

Rob Quiney is good as an opener.. so he shuld replace David Warner
He is agressive too.

@viresh you got my answer na for googlies?

MadMax wrote:

2nd topic

2) Is it a fair decision to give Rob Quiney a place in test team ahead of James Faulkner,Luke Butterworth,Moises Henriques,Andrew McDonald,Steve Smith,Dan Christian etc..

is it good to replace an all rounder with a Pure Batsman instead an All rounder ?

Please do post against whom u wanna fight as well.

Do Fight hard..
MadMax/-

I Am With Daniel Christian

Ofcourse HE Is the best choice
His Average Is Quiet Good

And AMong The above players he is the most experienced one also

Yes i got it... @rish

dan christian is one of the worst all rounders i hav ever seen :bitch:
And wats wrong in giving a guy his first chance

I dont like this topic :O

Will debate tomorrow

MI wrote:

MadMax wrote:

2nd topic

2) Is it a fair decision to give Rob Quiney a place in test team ahead of James Faulkner,Luke Butterworth,Moises Henriques,Andrew McDonald,Steve Smith,Dan Christian etc..

is it good to replace an all rounder with a Pure Batsman instead an All rounder ?

Please do post against whom u wanna fight as well.

Do Fight hard..
MadMax/-

I Am With Daniel Christian

Ofcourse HE Is the best choice
His Average Is Quiet Good

And AMong The above players he is the most experienced one also

But iving Quiney chance is also a good choice as he is performing excellnt in First Clss and List A

Viresh wrote:

MadMax wrote:

i dont think u are getting me...
You need Faulkner to have some variety in the bowling ...

The Batsman get used to face the Right arm bowlers..

When the three quicks cant get rid off the batsman then how can Moises tell me..
The thing is that they need a bowler who can swing into the batsman and who has some variety in him

Left Arm Bowler would have been good and superbly balanced the team..

and Faulkner CAN bat as well.

Being born in Aus and brought on The bEllerive Pitch he has to be a GOod Puller of the ball..

So Faulkner is that kinda guy who can BAT decently and Bowl SUPERBLY

If they get in Moises they will only be benefitted in batting but not in Bowling

where as if they get in Faulkner they could get benefitted in Bowling and as well as Batting a bit too..

Faulkner comes in at 7 at that time all Bowlers would be little tired off and So Faulkner can play his Natural Hitting game..But if Moises comes into team he has to bat at 4 because Punter Moves to 3 and everyone knnows that Clarke is Superb when he comes out at no 5..

So getting IN faulkner would be very much beneficial and adds good balance to the team

Moises is just equal to Rob Quiney and Michael Hussey

Bowls Medium pace and Bats as well..

You need Faulkner to have some variety in the bowling
The Batsman get used to face the Right arm bowlers..

Look at his bowling stats.. :O
70 wickets in 50 Inngs
Its good enough to be a bowler!!!
Bowling Style doesn't matters here...
Even Watson was right arm bowler...
So there is no wrong in replacing Watson with Moises......

Im saying again and again OZ need a BATSMAN who have capability to pick wickets ( to break partnership )
Moises CAN!!

When the three quicks cant get rid off the batsman then how can Moises tell me..

So drop all three bowlers from the team and pick others na? ...
The topic is who is the better replacement for Watson not who bowls better......

Moises is just equal to Rob Quiney and Michael Hussey

LOL ...
Rob Quiney just have 3 wickets in FC where as Moises have 23*3=69+1=70 wickets ..
The probability that Rob Quiney bowls is very very less just like finding spam post of Deep Dey and he is part time bowler :O

Bowls Medium pace and Bats as well..

So wat ?
Medium Pace ain't good for tests ?
Even Faulkner is Medium Pacer ..
Faulkner : Bowling style Left-arm medium
Moises : Bowling style Right-arm fast-medium



As said by u :

You need Faulkner to have some variety in the bowling

Hifenhaus ,Siddle & Pattinson are fast bowlers while Moises is medium pacer ..
So isn't there variety? ;)
So don't look at their bowling style....
Even Pattinson have same bowling style as Moises.. :O

Faulkner comes in at 7 at that time all Bowlers would be little tired
off and So Faulkner can play his Natural Hitting game..But if Moises
comes into team he has to bat at 4 because Punter Moves to 3 and
everyone knnows that Clarke is Superb when he comes out at no 5

at 4? :shock: :shock:
Moises bats at 6/7 :O
And he is BEST at that position ...

So Faulkner is that kinda guy who can BAT decently and Bowl SUPERBLY

Moises is the guy who can pick wickets and can break partnership .. and BATS superbly
OZ need such player...

Watson is also a Right arm bowler but u cant compare Moises with Watson
Watson is a guy who is capable of picking wickets at regular intervals the thing HE IS USED AS PARTNERSHIP BREAKER

Moises dont have that Ability of breaking partnerships
If you Check Sheffield matches most of the wickets Moises took were of Tail Enders..

Even Sreesanth picks wickets of tail enders so you cant say that Sreesanth is better bowler than Zaheer

Moises isnt much as good as Faulkner where as he is slightly a touch above in batting..

Aus need an all rounder who can bat decently and bowl quite well as Shane Watson

FAulkner can do that..

So varying of the pace doesnt matter here..because if he have Variation in pace thats it or what :O :O

In test Cricket you need to Swing the ball and pitch the ball in right areas..that will cause problems..

Mind you if u ever saw Moises Bowling in ODI that was disastrous because he always pitches it in Full or else bangs in short..

I dont think so Kallis,Abd,Amla arent good enough in playing him while they played those three quicks.
quite well

Faulkner was very impressive with his accurate Line and length and ability of Swinging ball both ways ..

and He is a decent batsman ..A guy who has scored 5 fifties in 41 innings with an average of 25 by playing at 7 is good enough i guess..

where as Moises scored 10 fifties and a century in 61 innings averaging 31..Thats not quite good for a BATTING all rounder ..

so ..what i say is If There was Starc in the line up Moises would have been handy and good pick but as there is no Starc The guy who deserves to be picked ahead of Quiney is James Faulkner.

thats for sure..

OMG!!
You guys are too good.

Brilliant fight going on!!

MI wrote:

MadMax wrote:

2nd topic

2) Is it a fair decision to give Rob Quiney a place in test team ahead of James Faulkner,Luke Butterworth,Moises Henriques,Andrew McDonald,Steve Smith,Dan Christian etc..

is it good to replace an all rounder with a Pure Batsman instead an All rounder ?

Please do post against whom u wanna fight as well.

Do Fight hard..
MadMax/-

I Am With Daniel Christian

Ofcourse HE Is the best choice
His Average Is Quiet Good

And AMong The above players he is the most experienced one also

Can i know why u prefer Dan ahead of Faulkner ??

Averaing 29 in FC which is just above Faulkner
and averages 34 as a bowler in FC

thats poor record to have in FC..
and he hasnt done anything OUTSTANDING in ODI nor in FC to give him a Chance in test Squad

So The worse ever option you can have after Steve Smith in test cricket is dan Christian :bitch: :bitch:

Saad Shafi Ahmed wrote:

MI wrote:

MadMax wrote:

2nd topic

2) Is it a fair decision to give Rob Quiney a place in test team ahead of James Faulkner,Luke Butterworth,Moises Henriques,Andrew McDonald,Steve Smith,Dan Christian etc..

is it good to replace an all rounder with a Pure Batsman instead an All rounder ?

Please do post against whom u wanna fight as well.

Do Fight hard..


MadMax/-

I Am With Daniel Christian

Ofcourse HE Is the best choice
His Average Is Quiet Good

And AMong The above players he is the most experienced one also

But iving Quiney chance is also a good choice as he is performing excellnt in First Clss and List A

Giving a PURE BATSMAN a chance in place of an ALL ROUNDER isnt good enough

I agree Quiney performed OUTSTANDINGLY in last years Sheffield and Ryobi Cup he has been the Key player afer Bradley for Victoria but he isnt good to repalce Watto

If he replaces Warner or Cowan i would be the first one to feel HAPPY in the world

I bet Sai will win this one

Ishaq wrote:I bet Sai will win this one

I bet viresh will win

MadMax wrote:

MI wrote:

MadMax wrote:

2nd topic

2) Is it a fair decision to give Rob Quiney a place in test team ahead of James Faulkner,Luke Butterworth,Moises Henriques,Andrew McDonald,Steve Smith,Dan Christian etc..

is it good to replace an all rounder with a Pure Batsman instead an All rounder ?

Please do post against whom u wanna fight as well.

Do Fight hard..
MadMax/-

I Am With Daniel Christian

Ofcourse HE Is the best choice
His Average Is Quiet Good

And AMong The above players he is the most experienced one also

Can i know why u prefer Dan ahead of Faulkner ??

Averaing 29 in FC which is just above Faulkner
and averages 34 as a bowler in FC

thats poor record to have in FC..
and he hasnt done anything OUTSTANDING in ODI nor in FC to give him a Chance in test Squad

So The worse ever option you can have after Steve Smith in test cricket is dan Christian :bitch: :bitch:

Agreed !
When they are not able to perform in ODI and T20 well and even in FC then y we give them chance so its better to give chance to faulkner is good but in this case they need a batting allrounder that they dont have so Quiney is right choice

Supposingly, you didn't understand the main motto to bring Quiney. Watson is a No.3 or an opener. It was obvious he was going to play at NO.3 this series as Cowan and Warner are there to open the innings. Now Quiney was brought in as he has good skills of an batsmen and can be up the order. At this moment, switching Watson with someone like D. Christian, S. Smith would mean that they would have to disturb the finishing order and hence the top orders would have to go up a spot. In order to main their tail ender and the top order combination, they chose Quiney over everyone else

Syed Aqi wrote:

Ishaq wrote:I bet Sai will win this one

I bet viresh will win

I meant this topic

Fardin wrote:Supposingly, you didn't understand the main motto to bring Quiney. Watson is a No.3 or an opener. It was obvious he was going to play at NO.3 this series as Cowan and Warner are there to open the innings. Now Quiney was brought in as he has good skills of an batsmen and can be up the order. At this moment, switching Watson with someone like D. Christian, S. Smith would mean that they would have to disturb the finishing order and hence the top orders would have to go up a spot. In order to main their tail ender and the top order combination, they chose Quiney over everyone else

Yeah this is what i also want to say
and other are saying Faulkner and Christan

No one is here to judge me now

Madmax wrote:
Watson is also a Right arm bowler but u cant compare Moises with Watson
Watson is a guy who is capable of picking wickets at regular intervals the thing HE IS USED AS PARTNERSHIP BREAKER

Moises dont have that Ability of breaking partnerships
If you Check Sheffield matches most of the wickets Moises took were of Tail Enders..

Even Sreesanth picks wickets of tail enders so you cant say that Sreesanth is better bowler than Zaheer

Moises isnt much as good as Faulkner where as he is slightly a touch above in batting..

Aus need an all rounder who can bat decently and bowl quite well as Shane Watson

FAulkner can do that..

So varying of the pace doesnt matter here..because if he have Variation in pace thats it or what

In test Cricket you need to Swing the ball and pitch the ball in right areas..that will cause problems..

Mind you if u ever saw Moises Bowling in ODI that was disastrous because he always pitches it in Full or else bangs in short..

I dont think so Kallis,Abd,Amla arent good enough in playing him while they played those three quicks.
quite well

Faulkner was very impressive with his accurate Line and length and ability of Swinging ball both ways ..

and He is a decent batsman ..A guy who has scored 5 fifties in 41 innings with an average of 25 by playing at 7 is good enough i guess..

where as Moises scored 10 fifties and a century in 61 innings averaging 31..Thats not quite good for a BATTING all rounder ..

so ..what i say is If There was Starc in the line up Moises would have been handy and good pick but as there is no Starc The guy who deserves to be picked ahead of Quiney is James Faulkner.

thats for sure..

First of all , i never compared Watto with Moises ..
Im not an IDIOT to compare him with Watson :O

You are saying the same thing again and again..
Read the previous posts again :O
I don't want to repeat those words again and again :bitch:

Aus need an all rounder who can bat decently and bowl quite well as Shane Watson

\
Moises CAN!

Fardin wrote:Supposingly, you didn't understand the main motto to bring Quiney. Watson is a No.3 or an opener. It was obvious he was going to play at NO.3 this series as Cowan and Warner are there to open the innings. Now Quiney was brought in as he has good skills of an batsmen and can be up the order. At this moment, switching Watson with someone like D. Christian, S. Smith would mean that they would have to disturb the finishing order and hence the top orders would have to go up a spot. In order to main their tail ender and the top order combination, they chose Quiney over everyone else

Can i say some thing

Watson said even before the series that he is going to bat at 4 and Punter will bat his fav spot no 3
and Michael Clake will be at his best position no 5

So obviously there is no need to bring in Quiney because Watson will be at 4 and they could have brought in Faulkner and thus they could have made sure that Punter will be 3,Clarke at 4,Hussey 5,Wade 6 and Faulkner at 7 .

Faulkner is kinda player like Gilchrist who likes to HIT the ball and FAulkner is a sweet timer of the ball

and more over FAulkner can bowl Superbly even better than some quicks in the XI.

The thing they brought in Quiney just because he scored 85 Vs South Africans..

thats only reason they brought in