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Fahad wrote:

MadMax wrote:THE ONLY THING HE IS IN THE SQUAD IS BECAUSE HE RECOVERED FROM CANCER HE SCORED A DOUBLE AND TOOK FIVE FOR VS ENGLAND

thats it
Thats just Utter Rubbish reason you could ever say to defend a players place in INDIAN TEST TEAM..

now say rahane to have cancer then recover then he will get chance

thats only the case in India

there is no one to look for the unknown fellows
god knows many domestic players who were good but may have suffered from Cancer or some other reason shall have been neglected

and bcos UV is famous all know about his cancer

Paul Valthaty, the best example for this, a star of Mumbai Domestic team, he had lost his eyesight so he was out for sum months and when he recovered suddenly vanished from team, bcos team didnt giv importance to him, thank god KXIP saw him and caught him, atleast he got his pride back
and ya, he shud also get a place then, his perfrmance are far better.....

got some work
later......

No one, replying on my views, I think this is called neglecting,
if you all see it then you willl come to know how perfect are they!

@Sai I am not talking about u

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:THE ONLY THING HE IS IN THE SQUAD IS BECAUSE HE RECOVERED FROM CANCER HE SCORED A DOUBLE AND TOOK FIVE FOR VS ENGLAND

thats it
Thats just Utter Rubbish reason you could ever say to defend a players place in INDIAN TEST TEAM..

He got chance because he didn't fail in any of match after he came back[consistant]
Don't be jealous of him :bitch:

Jealous for what ?

didnt fail in any match
should i show u score cards of T20 WORLD CUP ?

u don't have much time 2 prove in T20s, still he did well
Now its about Tests.
He did well in both batting & bowling which will be handy

Then Irfan scored century and took 4 wicets

jadeja scored 100 and took 3 wickets

what more u want them to do ?

SHINING ONCE IN A BLUE MOON DOESNT MEAN CONSISTENT JUST AS UV IN FC AND TESTS

dats what u r supporting not me :bitch:
U won't get regular performances from those,but u can expect from yuvi in Int. level
And for Irfan, we don't need a bowling rather batsman who can bowl right now

i am not at all supporting u

So you say that 34 average is VERY GOOD and they say MS is worst batsman in Test Cricket with UV behind him :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:

Better know the stats buddy

ok then leave out Irfan

what about Robin Bist ?Manoj Tiwary ? Rohit sharma ?Ashok Menaria

all average more than UV in FC

and UV IS for Batting not for bowling isnt it

MadMax wrote:

Fahad wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Fahad wrote:

MadMax wrote:THE ONLY THING HE IS IN THE SQUAD IS BECAUSE HE RECOVERED FROM CANCER HE SCORED A DOUBLE AND TOOK FIVE FOR VS ENGLAND

thats it
Thats just Utter Rubbish reason you could ever say to defend a players place in INDIAN TEST TEAM..

now say rahane to have cancer then recover then he will get chance :mother:

Lol what for ?

if thats the case then many would act like they have cancer and get a DuPLICATE medial proof and get a plac e in XI

Foolish :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:

i m jst joking :mother:

this is fighting thread not joking thread
:mother: :mother: :bitch: :bitch:

all fighting like anything
y so serioys?
making u all calm

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:THE ONLY THING HE IS IN THE SQUAD IS BECAUSE HE RECOVERED FROM CANCER HE SCORED A DOUBLE AND TOOK FIVE FOR VS ENGLAND

thats it
Thats just Utter Rubbish reason you could ever say to defend a players place in INDIAN TEST TEAM..

He got chance because he didn't fail in any of match after he came back[consistant]
Don't be jealous of him

Jealous for what ?

didnt fail in any match
should i show u score cards of T20 WORLD CUP ?

u don't have much time 2 prove in T20s, still he did well
Now its about Tests.
He did well in both batting & bowling which will be handy

Then Irfan scored century and took 4 wicets

jadeja scored 100 and took 3 wickets

what more u want them to do ?

SHINING ONCE IN A BLUE MOON DOESNT MEAN CONSISTENT JUST AS UV IN FC AND TESTS

dats what u r supporting not me
U won't get regular performances from those,but u can expect from yuvi in Int. level
And for Irfan, we don't need a bowling rather batsman who can bowl right now

i am not at all supporting u

So you say that 34 average is VERY GOOD and they say MS is worst batsman in Test Cricket with UV behind him

Better know the stats buddy

ok then leave out Irfan

what about Robin Bist ?Manoj Tiwary ? Rohit sharma ?Ashok Menaria

all average more than UV in FC

and UV IS for Batting not for bowling isnt it

yup, he is a batting alrounder and not a bowling all rounder, the the debate is for batting middle order and not for bowling ;)

Fahad wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Fahad wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Fahad wrote:

MadMax wrote:THE ONLY THING HE IS IN THE SQUAD IS BECAUSE HE RECOVERED FROM CANCER HE SCORED A DOUBLE AND TOOK FIVE FOR VS ENGLAND

thats it
Thats just Utter Rubbish reason you could ever say to defend a players place in INDIAN TEST TEAM..

now say rahane to have cancer then recover then he will get chance :mother:

Lol what for ?

if thats the case then many would act like they have cancer and get a DuPLICATE medial proof and get a plac e in XI

Foolish :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:

i m jst joking :mother:

this is fighting thread not joking thread
:mother: :mother: :bitch: :bitch:

all fighting like anything
y so serioys?
making u all calm

no need to joke here

this is just meant for fighting not for SPAMMIG AND JOKING
i already said other than fights if i find posts i will delete them as this is meant only for FIGHTING

Parth wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:THE ONLY THING HE IS IN THE SQUAD IS BECAUSE HE RECOVERED FROM CANCER HE SCORED A DOUBLE AND TOOK FIVE FOR VS ENGLAND

thats it
Thats just Utter Rubbish reason you could ever say to defend a players place in INDIAN TEST TEAM..

He got chance because he didn't fail in any of match after he came back[consistant]
Don't be jealous of him

Jealous for what ?

didnt fail in any match
should i show u score cards of T20 WORLD CUP ?

u don't have much time 2 prove in T20s, still he did well
Now its about Tests.
He did well in both batting & bowling which will be handy

Then Irfan scored century and took 4 wicets

jadeja scored 100 and took 3 wickets

what more u want them to do ?

SHINING ONCE IN A BLUE MOON DOESNT MEAN CONSISTENT JUST AS UV IN FC AND TESTS

dats what u r supporting not me
U won't get regular performances from those,but u can expect from yuvi in Int. level
And for Irfan, we don't need a bowling rather batsman who can bowl right now

i am not at all supporting u

So you say that 34 average is VERY GOOD and they say MS is worst batsman in Test Cricket with UV behind him

Better know the stats buddy

ok then leave out Irfan

what about Robin Bist ?Manoj Tiwary ? Rohit sharma ?Ashok Menaria

all average more than UV in FC

and UV IS for Batting not for bowling isnt it

yup, he is a batting alrounder and not a bowling all rounder, the the debate is for batting middle order and not for bowling ;)

and yes indeed if they needed bowling too

Ashok Menaria is far more better than UV .
Manoj Tiwar can roll his arm over and more than useful Part Time leg spinner

Rohit sharma too a useful offie.

There is already Ojha in ur team as leftie why again UV ??

MadMax wrote:

Parth wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:

MadMax wrote:THE ONLY THING HE IS IN THE SQUAD IS BECAUSE HE RECOVERED FROM CANCER HE SCORED A DOUBLE AND TOOK FIVE FOR VS ENGLAND

thats it
Thats just Utter Rubbish reason you could ever say to defend a players place in INDIAN TEST TEAM..

He got chance because he didn't fail in any of match after he came back[consistant]
Don't be jealous of him

Jealous for what ?

didnt fail in any match
should i show u score cards of T20 WORLD CUP ?

u don't have much time 2 prove in T20s, still he did well
Now its about Tests.
He did well in both batting & bowling which will be handy

Then Irfan scored century and took 4 wicets

jadeja scored 100 and took 3 wickets

what more u want them to do ?

SHINING ONCE IN A BLUE MOON DOESNT MEAN CONSISTENT JUST AS UV IN FC AND TESTS

dats what u r supporting not me
U won't get regular performances from those,but u can expect from yuvi in Int. level
And for Irfan, we don't need a bowling rather batsman who can bowl right now

i am not at all supporting u

So you say that 34 average is VERY GOOD and they say MS is worst batsman in Test Cricket with UV behind him

Better know the stats buddy

ok then leave out Irfan

what about Robin Bist ?Manoj Tiwary ? Rohit sharma ?Ashok Menaria

all average more than UV in FC

and UV IS for Batting not for bowling isnt it

yup, he is a batting alrounder and not a bowling all rounder, the the debate is for batting middle order and not for bowling ;)

and yes indeed if they needed bowling too

Ashok Menaria is far more better than UV .
Manoj Tiwar can roll his arm over and more than useful Part Time leg spinner

Rohit sharma too a useful offie.

There is already Ojha in ur team as leftie why again UV ??

its useless to talk about bowling
we have to just focus of Middle order
rahane, tieary, pujara, tare and many other derserve a place instead of UV

Uv deserve his position...
hw much can u rely on all other players/??
UV will b consistent 4 sure :O

Sanjay wrote:Uv deserve his position...
hw much can u rely on all other players/??
UV will b consistent 4 sure

no dude
you have to see the situation
currently UV needs to be rested and other shud be given a chance

den y not viru who is not in touch

Sanjay wrote:den y not viru who is not in touch

You cant bring in some other opener now and make that position even worse ok

These two openers understand each other very well they are batting since many years almost its been 8 yrs they have been batting together i guess

The thing is that We dont have problems with opening ...as much of now

the thing is we have problems with no 6 spot and UV is not worth to be there in TEST team

He hasnt done anything in FC to deserve the place directly with a Double Ton

There is Manoj Tiwary who did play lots of good knocs and scored heaps of runs in FC but still he is nt even in 15 member squad

In which way does UV deserve can u tell me?

only because of that 200 you say ? right and five for agaisnt england ??

Can u tell me a all rounder dat can substitute UV??

Sanjay wrote:Can u tell me a all rounder dat can substitute UV??

Manoj Tiwary
Irfan Pathan
Rohit Sharma

enuf of them
and there are others too who can bowl a bit like Ashok Menaria,Robin Bist,etc..(as i dont follow Ind Domestic Ckt much)

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:Can u tell me a all rounder dat can substitute UV??

Manoj Tiwary
Irfan Pathan
Rohit Sharma

enuf of them
and there are others too who can bowl a bit like Ashok Menaria,Robin Bist,etc..(as i dont follow Ind Domestic Ckt much)

i dint mean sumone who can bowl 2 domestic players.. :bitch:
I mean sumone who can bat and bowl against a talented side against england..
Do u think Tiwary and Sharma can take wickets against England??
And do u rely on battin of Irfan? :bitch:

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:den y not viru who is not in touch

You cant bring in some other opener now and make that position even worse ok

These two openers understand each other very well they are batting since many years almost its been 8 yrs they have been batting together i guess

The thing is that We dont have problems with opening ...as much of now

the thing is we have problems with no 6 spot and UV is not worth to be there in TEST team

He hasnt done anything in FC to deserve the place directly with a Double Ton

There is Manoj Tiwary who did play lots of good knocs and scored heaps of runs in FC but still he is nt even in 15 member squad

In which way does UV deserve can u tell me?

only because of that 200 you say ? right and five for agaisnt england ??

Opener doing well?
I didn't sawed them scoring 50+ prtnrshp from many matches

MadMax wrote:I STAND FIRMLY AGAINST YUVRAJ SINGH

its not at all fair enough to give a chance to Yuvraj just because he scored a Double Century and took five for in Practice match..

What has he done before in test matches ??

Just with one double century and five for you give a chance in TEST SQUAD ?

Then Where does guys like Robin Bist,Manoj Tiwary,Ashok Menaria who scored heaps of runs in Ranji for so many years go ?

Their loads of runs is just nothing when compared to one double century or what ?

Even Irfan pathan scored a century and piced up 4 wickets then give him chance as well

Just because UV was in the squad last time and he recovered from Cancer and scored 200 you cant give him a chance..that means you are Making others Runs as piece of s**t

I dont agree with that decision at all

Its not abt double hundred , 5 wickets , cancer etc... ..
EXPERIENCE matters in test..

In Ranji , it is Indian vs Indian ... so selectors will try to ignore it...
U need to prove the selectors by doing well in warm up matches or at least show their class in Salve Challenger Trophy ...
PS : Salve Challenger Trophy is played with the purpose of showcasing the talent that the country
has, as well as providing opportunities for younger players to make an
impression.

Yuvraj would have not been selected in the squad if he failed to pick 5 wickets and score 50 runs against England ..
..
India need a good all rounder .
I say good all rounder...
Yuvi has capability to score hundred and pick 5 wickets in a same match..

Vijay scored 100 in just 12 matches

ok then what about Robin Bist ?
he scores over 1000 runs in last years Ranji
he didnt even got place in Practice match XI

and what about Irfan pathan ?"
isnt he experienced?

he scored 100 and picked up 4 wickets

Irfan can bat too and can bowl well and swing the ball back into right hander

Every1 knws England batsman are not good in playing spin...
So Irfan being a medium pace shuld not be picked as an all rounder instead of Yuvi..
He can replace Ishant , Umesh Yadav etc but can't be picked in the squad ahead of Yuvi as an all rounder...

U need to have a good all rounder in ur team wen u play with 4 bowlers .!
[ Don't forget yesterday's debate ;) ]

*Robin Bist - Took 2 wickets in FC and u want him in the team instead of Yuvraj who picked 5 wkts against England ?
*Didn't even manage to score 40+ in his last 6 domestic inngs .. , want him in the team instead of Yuvraj who scored 59 , 14 & 259 ?
*Ashok Menaria & Manoj Tiwary : ARE THEY GOOD ALL ROUNDERS ? No!!

PS : Kohli & Pujara came as a replacement for Laxman & Rahul Dravid ..
Not Yuvraj!!
India are yet in search of a good all rounder!

What has he done before in test matches ??

Forget the past , talk abt present...
Team Selection is done based on present form and experience in playing against intl level players...

Their loads of runs is just nothing when compared to one double century or what ?

Mr X : 6461 runs , Mr Y : 1361
, Mr Z : 2913

Who is better irrespective of no of matches he played ??
Off Course ur ans will be Mr X aka Yuvraj Singh ;)

Y u want a batsman in the team instead of an all rounder ?
Does India have any better all rounder than Yuvraj Singh?

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MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:I think we already saw youngsters like Vijay , Rohit who are backbone in domestic level, failed 2 make any progress in Int. level.

And with two veterans Dravid & Laxman retired together, India's middle order will look very inexperience with youndsters.
So Board has turned into more stable batsmen, who is in gud form in both domestic & Int. level Yuvraj SIngh to carry pressure.

rahane and Vijay failed 2 make any progress ?

Rahane didnt even got any chance yet in test cricket..

Vijay scored a Test Century as well

thats what u dont called progress ?

what more u need ?

You need Century in every match or what

even if thats the case then not even Don Bradman cant make any progress..

one or the other they will fail..

and what has UV done tell me once

He won a cup for us

Took 9 wickets in 142.1 overs just as a part time spinner.. now he has turned to a perfect all rounder ( check his ODI recent performance )

He has very good record against England !
Scored 346 runs at an avg of 43.25avg..

He is good enough in Indian grounds
Scored 927 runs at an avg of 42.13 avg



PS : IM talking abt Intl Matches not domestic

UV Stats

FC 161 innings 19 tons 45 average
Tests 57 innings 3 tons 34 average

Rahane Stats

FC 95 innings 19 tons 63.74 average

Do u need any more to proove that Rahane is better than UV ?

Rahane recently scored a 94 against Englnad,Century in Ranji

What else more form u want ?

and Rahane has been so consistent His average speaks more ..

Is Rahane an all rounder?

If u want Rahane/Bist/Tiwary in the playing XI then just DROP Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar who is out of form
Y u don't want Yuvraj Singh - Man in form , in the team ? :O
PS: Rahane is already selected in the squad , so its waste of debating regarding him :O

What about Manoj Tiwary then ?

he too score many runs
and even he outclassed UV by scoring 93 against England

Then why only UV ?
why not Tiwary,Rohit,Bist,irfan,Ashok Menaria,Amol Mazumdar ?

Why only UV ?/

India need an all rounder not a batsman ... :O
[ Just as Aus needs Faulkner ( ) instead of Rob Quiney ]

UV did fail in second innings agaisnt England DKN

he scored only 14

Brother , only 10 overs were left for the end of the play ...
so his inngs would not have changed the match scenario!
Talk abt 200 rather than 14

---

Yuvraj Singh has already proved that he is an ALL ROUNDER not a part time spinner in limited over cricket.
Time to prove it in Test!


U NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE ALL ROUNDER IN UR TEAM

Sanjay wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:Can u tell me a all rounder dat can substitute UV??

Manoj Tiwary
Irfan Pathan
Rohit Sharma

enuf of them
and there are others too who can bowl a bit like Ashok Menaria,Robin Bist,etc..(as i dont follow Ind Domestic Ckt much)

i dint mean sumone who can bowl 2 domestic players.. :bitch:
I mean sumone who can bat and bowl against a talented side against england..
Do u think Tiwary and Sharma can take wickets against England??
And do u rely on battin of Irfan? :bitch:

Lol What does UV does more ?
He just comes in and bowl some overs quickly

UV is not there to take wickets my dear friend
and if UV takes wickets agaisnt this England side then it would be waste of playing Cricket for England :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:

and of course Tiwary has got 4 wkt haul in ODI and Irfan's batting has improved a lot

Now he is a Batting all rounder rather than Bowling all rounder
didnt u see the Practice match ? he scored 48 odd or so ...

More over do u think UV is there for his bowling

He is in team as NO 6 BATSMAN
So UV isnt capable for test cricket he is only a ODI and T20 Customer..doesnt have temperment,doesnt have that technique as well

Manoj Tiwary is lot more better than UV

VIResh....salute 2 u

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:Can u tell me a all rounder dat can substitute UV??

Manoj Tiwary
Irfan Pathan
Rohit Sharma

enuf of them
and there are others too who can bowl a bit like Ashok Menaria,Robin Bist,etc..(as i dont follow Ind Domestic Ckt much)

i dint mean sumone who can bowl 2 domestic players.. :bitch:
I mean sumone who can bat and bowl against a talented side against england..
Do u think Tiwary and Sharma can take wickets against England??
And do u rely on battin of Irfan? :bitch:

Lol What does UV does more ?
He just comes in and bowl some overs quickly

UV is not there to take wickets my dear friend
and if UV takes wickets agaisnt this England side then it would be waste of playing Cricket for England :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:

and of course Tiwary has got 4 wkt haul in ODI and Irfan's batting has improved a lot

Now he is a Batting all rounder rather than Bowling all rounder
didnt u see the Practice match ? he scored 48 odd or so ...

More over do u think UV is there for his bowling

He is in team as NO 6 BATSMAN
So UV isnt capable for test cricket he is only a ODI and T20 Customer..doesnt have temperment,doesnt have that technique as well

Manoj Tiwary is lot more better than UV

teall me how many tyms did u see tiwary batting in tests :bitch:

A W E S O M E VIRESH
SALUTE TO U :mother:

Fahad wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:den y not viru who is not in touch

You cant bring in some other opener now and make that position even worse ok

These two openers understand each other very well they are batting since many years almost its been 8 yrs they have been batting together i guess

The thing is that We dont have problems with opening ...as much of now

the thing is we have problems with no 6 spot and UV is not worth to be there in TEST team

He hasnt done anything in FC to deserve the place directly with a Double Ton

There is Manoj Tiwary who did play lots of good knocs and scored heaps of runs in FC but still he is nt even in 15 member squad

In which way does UV deserve can u tell me?

only because of that 200 you say ? right and five for agaisnt england ??

Opener doing well?
I didn't sawed them scoring 50+ prtnrshp from many matches

point to be noted

Viresh wrote:

MadMax wrote:I STAND FIRMLY AGAINST YUVRAJ SINGH

its not at all fair enough to give a chance to Yuvraj just because he scored a Double Century and took five for in Practice match..

What has he done before in test matches ??

Just with one double century and five for you give a chance in TEST SQUAD ?

Then Where does guys like Robin Bist,Manoj Tiwary,Ashok Menaria who scored heaps of runs in Ranji for so many years go ?

Their loads of runs is just nothing when compared to one double century or what ?

Even Irfan pathan scored a century and piced up 4 wickets then give him chance as well

Just because UV was in the squad last time and he recovered from Cancer and scored 200 you cant give him a chance..that means you are Making others Runs as piece of s**t

I dont agree with that decision at all

Its not abt double hundred , 5 wickets , cancer etc... ..
EXPERIENCE matters in test..

In Ranji , it is Indian vs Indian ... so selectors will try to ignore it...
U need to prove the selectors by doing well in warm up matches or at least show their class in Salve Challenger Trophy ...
PS : Salve Challenger Trophy is played with the purpose of showcasing the talent that the country
has, as well as providing opportunities for younger players to make an
impression.

Yuvraj would have not been selected in the squad if he failed to pick 5 wickets and score 50 runs against England ..
..
India need a good all rounder .
I say good all rounder...
Yuvi has capability to score hundred and pick 5 wickets in a same match..

Vijay scored 100 in just 12 matches

ok then what about Robin Bist ?
he scores over 1000 runs in last years Ranji
he didnt even got place in Practice match XI

and what about Irfan pathan ?"
isnt he experienced?

he scored 100 and picked up 4 wickets

Irfan can bat too and can bowl well and swing the ball back into right hander

Every1 knws England batsman are not good in playing spin...
So Irfan being a medium pace shuld not be picked as an all rounder instead of Yuvi..
He can replace Ishant , Umesh Yadav etc but can't be picked in the squad ahead of Yuvi as an all rounder...

U need to have a good all rounder in ur team wen u play with 4 bowlers .!
[ Don't forget yesterday's debate ;) ]

*Robin Bist - Took 2 wickets in FC and u want him in the team instead of Yuvraj who picked 5 wkts against England ?
*Didn't even manage to score 40+ in his last 6 domestic inngs .. , want him in the team instead of Yuvraj who scored 59 , 14 & 259 ?
*Ashok Menaria & Manoj Tiwary : ARE THEY GOOD ALL ROUNDERS ? No!!

PS : Kohli & Pujara came as a replacement for Laxman & Rahul Dravid ..
Not Yuvraj!!
India are yet in search of a good all rounder!

What has he done before in test matches ??

Forget the past , talk abt present...
Team Selection is done based on present form and experience in playing against intl level players...

Their loads of runs is just nothing when compared to one double century or what ?

Mr X : 6461 runs , Mr Y : 1361
, Mr Z : 2913

Who is better irrespective of no of matches he played ??
Off Course ur ans will be Mr X aka Yuvraj Singh ;)

Y u want a batsman in the team instead of an all rounder ?
Does India have any better all rounder than Yuvraj Singh?

---

MadMax wrote:

DKN wrote:I think we already saw youngsters like Vijay , Rohit who are backbone in domestic level, failed 2 make any progress in Int. level.

And with two veterans Dravid & Laxman retired together, India's middle order will look very inexperience with youndsters.
So Board has turned into more stable batsmen, who is in gud form in both domestic & Int. level Yuvraj SIngh to carry pressure.

rahane and Vijay failed 2 make any progress ?

Rahane didnt even got any chance yet in test cricket..

Vijay scored a Test Century as well

thats what u dont called progress ?

what more u need ?

You need Century in every match or what

even if thats the case then not even Don Bradman cant make any progress..

one or the other they will fail..

and what has UV done tell me once

He won a cup for us

Took 9 wickets in 142.1 overs just as a part time spinner.. now he has turned to a perfect all rounder ( check his ODI recent performance )

He has very good record against England !
Scored 346 runs at an avg of 43.25avg..

He is good enough in Indian grounds
Scored 927 runs at an avg of 42.13 avg



PS : IM talking abt Intl Matches not domestic

UV Stats

FC 161 innings 19 tons 45 average
Tests 57 innings 3 tons 34 average

Rahane Stats

FC 95 innings 19 tons 63.74 average

Do u need any more to proove that Rahane is better than UV ?

Rahane recently scored a 94 against Englnad,Century in Ranji

What else more form u want ?

and Rahane has been so consistent His average speaks more ..

Is Rahane an all rounder?

If u want Rahane/Bist/Tiwary in the playing XI then just DROP Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar who is out of form
Y u don't want Yuvraj Singh - Man in form , in the team ? :O
PS: Rahane is already selected in the squad , so its waste of debating regarding him :O

What about Manoj Tiwary then ?

he too score many runs
and even he outclassed UV by scoring 93 against England

Then why only UV ?
why not Tiwary,Rohit,Bist,irfan,Ashok Menaria,Amol Mazumdar ?

Why only UV ?/

India need an all rounder not a batsman ... :O
[ Just as Aus needs Faulkner ( ) instead of Rob Quiney ]

UV did fail in second innings agaisnt England DKN

he scored only 14

Brother , only 10 overs were left for the end of the play ...
so his inngs would not have changed the match scenario!
Talk abt 200 rather than 14

---

Yuvraj Singh has already proved that he is an ALL ROUNDER not a part time spinner in limited over cricket.
Time to prove it in Test!


U NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE ALL ROUNDER IN UR TEAM

Yep Experience does matter in TEST but also performance matters too
Did UV perform in tests ? NO
in FC-NO

Yes India need a GOOD all rounder but India mainly need NO 6 BATSMAN now understand this

even if UV bowls or not There is Pragyan Ojha and Ashwin Two Spinners in the team who can rip through England line up

UV is used as Third Spinner i mean as a Part Timer not ahead of these two guys ok

UV has been good in bowling but has been not good in batting..

As u say its Indian Vs Indian in Ranji then agaisnt whom did he score 208 in Duleep trohpy ? did he Aussies or english came and bowled to him ? No its The Indians

and as u say he managed to pick Five for and score 50 against England ok i agree with it ..

Then what about other guys ? Manoj tiwary didnt he score 93 Vs England in Practice match (He didnt got chance to bowl)

did he pick 4wkt haul vs West Indies ?

Manoj Tiwary is also a useful leggie ..He can bowl well as well as UV does..but the thing is He is not often used as Bowler thats the matter.

as u say forget the past...talk abt present form ..then even Jalaj Saxena is IN FORM all rounder
Scored Century today,picked up 5wkt haul in DULEEP TROPHY

if u talk abt present form there will be many gems now..the thing is you also need to consider past performances

Even Ravindra Jadeja is scoring high today ..

Mr X : 6461 runs , Mr Y : 1361
, Mr Z : 2913

Who is better irrespective of no of matches he played ??

If they too get as many oppurtunities as UV got then they would also have been scored even more than UV ..

He won a cup for us

Took 9 wickets in 142.1 overs just as a part time spinner.. now he has turned to a perfect all rounder ( check his ODI recent performance )

He has very good record against England !
Scored 346 runs at an avg of 43.25avg..

He is good enough in Indian grounds
Scored 927 runs at an avg of 42.13 avg

You only said nah Talk abt present..in present what has done ? in T20WC ? The answer will be nothing

As the series is in INDIA ,India will be going with 2 Spinners..i think that 2 Spinners with Quality of Ashwin and Ojha are enough to rattle up English line up there is no need of third spinner

Ashwin and Ojha are capable of bowling long spells..and there is also Sehwag and Tendulkar to bowl(mind you Tendulkar and Sehwag were the premier spinners in early 2000's for India)

Going with UV strengthens their Bowling but not their Batting

More over as everyone think Indian pitches are favourable for Spinners its not soo true because Ahmedabad and Mumbai have helped Pacers a lot than the Spinners

i dont think there is need to say abt English Pace attack

So you need an Extra batsman who can bowl a BIT as well

*PS Who can bowl some overs quickly and maintain some pressure on batsman

so UV isnt capable of batting as Tiwary can ..
Agree Tiwary cant bowl equal to UV

India are in need of a GOOD ALL ROUNDER

but more than it They need some one to BAT as well

Where as Tiwary can do that and UV CANNOT bat as well as Tiwary

U NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE ALL ROUNDER IN UR TEAM

:bitch: Ashwin is an all rounder dont forget that
He has a Test Century
Ashwin's test batting average is 39(even better than MS and UV)

Do i need to say Ashwin's bowling ?

so INDIA at present need a GUY WHO CAN BAT WELL and BOWL A BIT AND GIVE SUPPORT TO MAIN BOWLERS AS WELL

Sanjay wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:

MadMax wrote:

Sanjay wrote:Can u tell me a all rounder dat can substitute UV??

Manoj Tiwary
Irfan Pathan
Rohit Sharma

enuf of them
and there are others too who can bowl a bit like Ashok Menaria,Robin Bist,etc..(as i dont follow Ind Domestic Ckt much)

i dint mean sumone who can bowl 2 domestic players.. :bitch:
I mean sumone who can bat and bowl against a talented side against england..
Do u think Tiwary and Sharma can take wickets against England??
And do u rely on battin of Irfan? :bitch:

Lol What does UV does more ?
He just comes in and bowl some overs quickly

UV is not there to take wickets my dear friend
and if UV takes wickets agaisnt this England side then it would be waste of playing Cricket for England :bitch: :bitch: :bitch:

and of course Tiwary has got 4 wkt haul in ODI and Irfan's batting has improved a lot

Now he is a Batting all rounder rather than Bowling all rounder
didnt u see the Practice match ? he scored 48 odd or so ...

More over do u think UV is there for his bowling

He is in team as NO 6 BATSMAN
So UV isnt capable for test cricket he is only a ODI and T20 Customer..doesnt have temperment,doesnt have that technique as well

Manoj Tiwary is lot more better than UV

teall me how many tyms did u see tiwary batting in tests :bitch:

:bitch: :bitch: Did Tiwary ever debuted in tests ?

Do go and watch Ranji matches u will get to know his batting :bitch: :bitch: